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SirGarth  2 stars
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the photo is from 2009, it depicts white phosphorous in use - which while not illegal for use as cover, has horrible consequences, is banned as an offensive weapon and has had it's use has since been discontinued by the IDF. the source of the photo is AFP:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7841999.stm

more recently, Palestinian militants have been launching it from Gaza into southern Israel.

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Global-News/2010/0915/Israel-Phosphorus-bombshells-launched-from-Gaza

the use of white phosphorous as an offensive weapon under international law, it is allowed tho to provide cover for a landing area.

still, in the Palestinian militants vs IDF question as to who the "good guys" are, i'm going to go with they guys who don't intentionally use their civilian populations as human shields to hide weapons caches and plan terrorist attacks, also going with the side that doesn't glorify child martyrdom.

 

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NuEM  4 stars
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tenkly posted:

this is what they don't show you in western media.



They don't show stuff like that in your media?

 

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Phlegm573  3 stars
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No matter how you feel about the Palestinians. If Israel had a different dominant religion, we would not be having this discussion.

Would we?

How many "free Tibet" threads have you seen around here lately?

 

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eodoll  4 stars
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yeah the good guy has the biggest baddest bombs.
sweeny_comodore  4 stars
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Phlegm573 posted:

No matter how you feel about the Palestinians. If Israel had a different dominant religion, we would not be having this discussion.

Would we?

How many "free Tibet" threads have you seen around here lately?



the difference being that we arent buddy, buddy with china like we are with isreal

 

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SirGarth  2 stars
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tenkly posted:

this is what they don't show you in western media.




it's worth repeating that this image was published by the BBC, and the photo was from the AFP... pretty sure that constitutes the western media.

 

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Azure-TheBlueOne  2 stars
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I don't understand why we support Israel so heavily. They don't seem to be much better than any other country/people in that sector of the world, and with our support, it seems like we're enabling them to be much worse tyrants as time goes on.

On a tangent, as a Christian nation, I really don't understand our heavy support and relation with Jews, yet nearly unmasked animosity for Muslims.

 

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Phlegm573  3 stars
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Azure-TheBlueOne posted:

On a tangent, as a Christian nation, I really don't understand our heavy support and relation with Jews, yet nearly unmasked animosity for Muslims.



Ok, let me know the answer to that question once you figure out why Jews are flying airplanes into our buildings.

 

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SirGarth  2 stars
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Azure-TheBlueOne posted:

I don't understand why we support Israel so heavily. They don't seem to be much better than any other country/people in that sector of the world, and with our support, it seems like we're enabling them to be much worse tyrants as time goes on.

On a tangent, as a Christian nation, I really don't understand our heavy support and relation with Jews, yet nearly unmasked animosity for Muslims.



well, one big reason is the Egypt-Israel Peace Treaty

really has nothing to with being Christian/Jewish/Islamic or whatever... we've sent over $38 billion to Egypt in military assistance too, but part of the terms of the treaty require support to both sides and has been going on for decades, although that is in jeopardy lately:

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/Special/2012/03/14/Israel-Egypt-peace-pact-under-threat/UPI-18051331756821/

 

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tenkly  4 stars
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> a small group of people does something bad

> ALL MUSLIMS ARE EVIL LETS PIGEON HOLE THEM ALL IN THE SAME CATEGORY DURR


BTW, i'm not pro palestine. but I'm definitely not pro Israel.. Both sides have done things that were over the line. This doesn't mean it's ok to continue to support one side.

If both sides have the same blood on their hands, YOU DON'T SUPPORT EITHER ONE. I don't know why this is hard to understand?

 

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