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GrymmDAOC  1 star
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SirGarth posted:

illmyrin posted:

Usury pisses people off.



never mind the fact that Jews and others were forced into the profession because money handling was considered unclean by the early Christian churches...



Not true. The pre-christian greeks and romans also complained about Jewish money lenders.

 

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sweeny_comodore  4 stars
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GrymmDAOC posted:

SirGarth posted:

illmyrin posted:

Usury pisses people off.



never mind the fact that Jews and others were forced into the profession because money handling was considered unclean by the early Christian churches...



Not true. The pre-christian greeks and romans also complained about Jewish money lenders.



despite the fact that the christian crusaders/knights templars were the original mega bank

 

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sweeny_comodore  4 stars
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oh, and as a christian nation, we are responsible for slaughtering more jews than hitler, throughout history

 

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Yossarian_42  4 stars
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SirGarth posted:

never mind the fact that Jews and others were forced into the profession because money handling was considered unclean by the early Christian churches...



So, what you are saying is that while the Jews are, in fact, reprehensible people that everyone is justified in hating it isn't entirely their fault?

 

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SirGarth  2 stars
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not at all, just addressing the specific issue of money lending.

 

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illmyrin  3 stars
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SirGarth posted:

never mind the fact that Jews and others were forced into the profession because money handling was considered unclean by the early Christian churches...



Money handling was not considered unclean by early Christian churches but the practice of Usury was considered against god's laws. Jewish dogma doesn't have the same restrictions against charging interest.


I'll give examples...

Christian Loan. "Hey can I borrow 3 gold pieces?" "Sure(hands over the gold)."

Jewish Loan, "Oi canz I borrow tree gold pieces?" "es but I want 5 in return, by friday, and if you can't pay me I need collateral, your farm will do.(hands over 5 gold, one at a time, counting out loud)((Finds out what borrower needed the gold for and attempts to sabotage the ability of the borrower to pay it back in time))

 

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__Bonk__  5 stars
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Yoss must be Jewish

 

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SirGarth  2 stars
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illmyrin posted:

SirGarth posted:

never mind the fact that Jews and others were forced into the profession because money handling was considered unclean by the early Christian churches...



Money handling was not considered unclean by early Christian churches but the practice of Usury was considered against god's laws. Jewish dogma doesn't have the same restrictions against charging interest.


I'll give examples...

Christian Loan. "Hey can I borrow 3 gold pieces?" "Sure(hands over the gold)."

Jewish Loan, "Oi canz I borrow tree gold pieces?" "es but I want 5 in return, by friday, and if you can't pay me I need collateral, your farm will do.(hands over 5 gold, one at a time, counting out loud)((Finds out what borrower needed the gold for and attempts to sabotage the ability of the borrower to pay it back in time))



wow... that's absurd, historically inaccurate, completely wrong, and actually pretty offensive.

 

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illmyrin  3 stars
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It's not inaccurate. It's a made up example but that's what Usury means and that's how Usury was put into practice.

Pound of flesh, Shylock style.

 

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IMHO  4 stars
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illmyrin posted:

Jewish Loan, "Oi canz I borrow tree gold pieces?" "es but I want 5 in return, by friday, and if you can't pay me I need collateral, your farm will do.(hands over 5 gold, one at a time, counting out loud)((Finds out what borrower needed the gold for and attempts to sabotage the ability of the borrower to pay it back in time))






I think Illy is confused.

 

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