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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaolin_Monastery#Destructions
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posted: In 1928, the warlord Shi Yousan set fire to the monastery, burning it for over 40 days, destroying a significant percent of the buildings including many manuscripts of the temple library.[11]
The Cultural Revolution launched in 1966 targeted religious orders including the monastery. The five monks who were present at the monastery when the Red Guard attacked were shackled and made to wear placards declaring the crimes charged against them.[11] The monks were jailed after publicly being flogged and paraded through the street as people threw rubbish at them.[11] The government purged Buddhist materials from within the monastery walls, leaving it barren for years.
Although Jet Li is a bit more than an actor, I understand your desire to dismiss his story.
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GrymmDAOC posted:
I am not going to argue with this. The combat grappling art of medieval europe was called kampfringen, which translates to "war grappling". There is no ground game in kampfringen, because you cannot pull guard against a pollaxe. That being said, the PEASANT arts of europe had a ground game, because peasants dont carry a sword.
As i understand it, people were wearing so much armor back then that the only way to kill someone really was get him on the ground and 4 or 5 of you had to swarm him. I know armor wasn't as restrictive as we think, but i doubt a ground game probably wouldn't help you much in defending yourself from that so you could pull yourself out of the mud and back on your feet.
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shaolin posted:
At the peak of its historical influence, the temple ran 25 sub-temples with as many as 800-plus monks.
so which temple, exactly, was it that was burned and ALL 5 of the monks jailed?
and of the thousands of fighting monks that were housed in the temples, how many of them were jailed or murdered?
you people suck at the internet
and why do we care what actors say, again?
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Date Posted:
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stabbity stabbity?
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sweeny_comodore posted:
shaolin posted:
At the peak of its historical influence, the temple ran 25 sub-temples with as many as 800-plus monks.
so which temple, exactly, was it that was burned and ALL 5 of the monks jailed?
and of the thousands of fighting monks that were housed in the temples, how many of them were jailed or murdered?
you people suck at the internet
and why do we care what actors say, again?
Whyfor are you hating on Jet Li? Do you realize that his movie was a primary cause for the restoration of the Temple? If it weren't for his movie, you'd likely never have heard of this stuff you so desperately want to believe is real. You should be sure to run out and sign up so you can learn the secrets of the Iron Shirt and the Cinnabar Palm! It looks like you already have the Iron Head down pat. 
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GrymmDAOC  Posts: 241
Registered: 2001-12-6 13:04:16
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Altra_Shadowstalker posted:
GrymmDAOC posted:
I am not going to argue with this. The combat grappling art of medieval europe was called kampfringen, which translates to "war grappling". There is no ground game in kampfringen, because you cannot pull guard against a pollaxe. That being said, the PEASANT arts of europe had a ground game, because peasants dont carry a sword.
As i understand it, people were wearing so much armor back then that the only way to kill someone really was get him on the ground and 4 or 5 of you had to swarm him. I know armor wasn't as restrictive as we think, but i doubt a ground game probably wouldn't help you much in defending yourself from that so you could pull yourself out of the mud and back on your feet.
A ground game doesn't help you because pointy bits of metal change everything. You can be the greatest super ninja alive, but if some one sticks a pointy bit of steel into your groin, you die
Armoured fighting reflected this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4k-vjdeZO4
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Eager_Igraine posted:
sweeny_comodore posted:
shaolin posted:
At the peak of its historical influence, the temple ran 25 sub-temples with as many as 800-plus monks.
so which temple, exactly, was it that was burned and ALL 5 of the monks jailed?
and of the thousands of fighting monks that were housed in the temples, how many of them were jailed or murdered?
you people suck at the internet
and why do we care what actors say, again?
Whyfor are you hating on Jet Li? Do you realize that his movie was a primary cause for the restoration of the Temple? If it weren't for his movie, you'd likely never have heard of this stuff you so desperately want to believe is real. You should be sure to run out and sign up so you can learn the secrets of the Iron Shirt and the Cinnabar Palm! It looks like you already have the Iron Head down pat.
i just want to know which one of the 25 temples youre talking about.
this stuff went down barely 100 years ago. and you already act as if its the dead sea scrolls being uncovered in a long lost cave somewhere.
why youre panties so tight?
jet li posted:
He did not learn Nanquan (Southern fist), because his training focused only in the Northern Shaolin Styles. He has also studied some of wushu's main weapons, such Sanjiegun (Three section staff), Gun (staff), Dao (Broadsword), Jian (Straight sword) and many more.[7]
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Koneg  Title: Evil Genius
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Registered: 2001-12-4 15:31:28
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GrymmDAOC posted:
It doesn't matter if it it is on the 'street' or not not. Assuming weapons aren't a factor, if you do not know how to defend a takedown, you are going down. And once you are down, that submission artist is going to break your fucking elbow or shoulder. All the superninja stuff in the world wont help once you are on your back with some dude mounting you.
Pretty much this.
Almost all "street fights" go to the ground at some point. Even people not trained in grappling or MMA or whatever, if they perceive themselves as having a size or strength advantage they will take you down to pummel the crap out of you.
If you're serious about being able to handle yourself in a street fight, then having some grappling training is a prerequisite - if for no other reason so that you can effectively defend against it.
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eodoll  Posts: 1,028
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a good juu jutsu fighter would learn how to defend from getting hit... i think ju jitsu is one of the better styles but its passive. 1v1 usually goes to the judo guy. there are always exceptions but if the judo guy can get his arms around you then he will use pressure piints and do whatever to either break your neck or bones.
i think fight sports have pretty much proven the effectiveness of grappling on 1v1 sutuations. for a kicker/puncher to beat a hrappler requires that the grappler make a big mistake or be bery much outclassed.
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lol
a bunch of pansies talking about how street fights go down.
memorize and regurgitate much?
you know what you do when you go down in a street fight?
you shove your thumb in his eye, grab a hand full of ear or flappy cheek and yank, etc...
pull a tyson and bite his friggin ear off.
you know how you avoid going down in a street fight?
kick em harder than they are rushing you, drop your elbow on the base of their skull, grab them and flip them over the top of you....
grappling training for a street fight, lol
you try your grappling crap on me and your going to come up missing parts or your flesh and face.
my teeth are sharper than your shoulder muscle. the tips of my fingers are stronger than your squishy eyeballs.
this is why grappling doesnt work outside the ring on another trained fighter, or anyone who is capable of keeping their wits about them.
street fights go to the ground because people are scared and dont know how to fight.
you know how many street fights ive been in?
more than you
know how many times ive been wrastling in a street fight?
less than you roll around in the sheets with your boyfriends dog
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