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sweeny_comodore  4 stars
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wtf is a striker?

ted striker?

 

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sweeny_comodore  4 stars
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http://www.xisuigong.com/History%20of%20Xiao%20Jiu.htm


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While adhering to the theories of Huang- Di's Nine Chamber Scriptures, the Taoist, Wu Dao Zi, of the Tang dynasty (618 AD - 906 AD) blended the static and kinetic self-defense features of the birds, animals, boxing and swordsmanship comprising the skills of wrestling, striking, seizing and kicking as well as the skills of chi control and spirit preservation through the cultivation of bone marrow washing. This school was named Little Nine Heaven Wu Tao. The students of this school were responsible for guarding the temples of the Taoist priests. posted:



MMA was invented by the shaolin monks, 1500 years ago.
and youre going to say hoyce gracie does it better?

the difference between a prize fighter and a skilled monk is the prize fighter is trying to prove something

 

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GrymmDAOC  1 star
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Registered: 2001-12-6 13:04:16
There are NO shaolin martial monks. They were all killed off by the Qing Dynasty centuries ago. The people posing as shaolin martial monks are wushu dancers playing for tourist dollars. They are fake. The most famous "Shaolin Monk" lives in hawaii and has a child with the daughter of a famous black activist. They are fake.


The real shaolin monastery has a handful of monks in it, none of them martial. Just ask Jet Li. My wife is Chinese. Ask her parents. They know the score. I honestly respect most martial arts, and I do love and respect Han culture and history. I really do. The Han are a very great people, worthy of emulation (so fug you Dae trist). In time, I will probably study Tai Qi Chuan (even though I think Qi is a load of bull) but you need to know the score. Lies serves no one. There is no traceable "Shaolin Kung Fu". And the kung masters are, all too often, idiots. That is why the Chinese bases their military combatives striking on boxing.

 

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sweeny_comodore  4 stars
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GrymmDAOC posted:

There are NO shaolin martial monks. They were all killed off by the Qing Dynasty centuries ago. The people posing as shaolin martial monks are wushu dancers playing for tourist dollars. They are fake. The most famous "Shaolin Monk" lives in hawaii and has a child with the daughter of a famous black activist. They are fake.

The real shaolin monastery has a handful of monks in it, none of them martial. Just ask Jet Li. My wife is Chinese. Ask her parents. They know the score. I honestly respect most martial arts, and I do love and respect Han culture and history. I really do. The Han are a very great people, worthy of emulation (so fug you Dae trist). In time, I will probably study Tai Qi Chuan (even though I think Qi is a load of bull) but you need to know the score. Lies serves no one. There is no traceable "Shaolin Kung Fu". And the kung masters are, all too often, idiots. That is why the Chinese bases their military combatives striking on boxing.



youre an idiot. seriously

you think no shaolin survived past the 1930s?
all of them were murdered? none of their students or masters escaped as refugees?

ask your wife about tienemen square. see if her "official chinese" version matches up to the "western reality" of what really happened.
then go back and question her again about shaolin and its lineage into modern day

 

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GrymmDAOC  1 star
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Ask Jet mutha fuggin' li how many monks are at Shaolin.


The Qing dynastey killed em all off to keep em from supporting the ming.

 

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sweeny_comodore  4 stars
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GrymmDAOC posted:

Ask Jet mutha fuggin' li how many monks are at Shaolin.

The Qing dynastey killed em all off to keep em from supporting the ming.



ALL of them?
really?
because jet mutha figgin' li says so?

didnt clooney say he was moving to canada if bush was voted in a second time?

actors....

 

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GrymmDAOC  1 star
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No, beacuse Jet mutha fuggin' Li went to the temple.


And you know what he saw?


Ruins. Ruins and a handful of monks. None of them martial. he did see lots of wushu schools in Shaolin though.

 

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GrymmDAOC  1 star
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Altra_Shadowstalker posted:

That right there is the problem.


Assume there's no weapon.


Assume it's a one on one.


Assume your enemy has honor.


Assume assume assume.


The last place I want to end up in a street fight is on the ground. While I've gotten past your guard, into the full mount and am applying my kamora rear naked choke armbar Americano, your buddy just smashed a glass bottle on my head and is stabbing me with the remainder. My buddies can point out i beat the first guy by almost choking him out... At my eulogy.


Personally, I'd rather figure out a way to defend myself while i retreat. I wouldn't knock those who train in the ground game though (as i said, i trained BJJ for about a year or two myself). Knowing how to put up a defense is important, as is learning how to fall.



I am not going to argue with this. The combat grappling art of medieval europe was called kampfringen, which translates to "war grappling". There is no ground game in kampfringen, because you cannot pull guard against a pollaxe. That being said, the PEASANT arts of europe had a ground game, because peasants dont carry a sword.

 

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Eager_Igraine  4 stars
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Shaolin fantasies are funneh stuff.


Surely, somewhere the secret arts have been kept alive by an ancient master and his young protege.

 

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sweeny_comodore  4 stars
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http://www.shaolin.org.cn/templates/EN_T_new_list/index.aspx?nodeid=375


a ruined temple and handfull of monks does not mean that none of the shaolin martial monks escaped the destruction.
it does not mean that the shaolin styles are extinct


since when did the words of actors mean anything?

 

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