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Author Topic: Anyone watch MMA? It's a waste how many people put their kids in TKD. [Locked]
GrymmDAOC  1 star
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Registered: 2001-12-6 13:04:16
Cawlin posted:

GrymmDAOC posted:

smellymotor posted:

Oh I know tae kwan do. it's not a useless martial art at all


MMA still sucks though. I rate it as entertaining as WWF wrestling. Do they even know martial arts? They fight like 5 year old brothers in the back yard



There is tremendous art in MMA. For example submission grappling is like physical chess, and when you understand it you can see how one position flows into the the next leading to the inevitable checkmate of a submission.



Submission holds are terribly boring to watch though. Nobody thinks it's legit for some 170 lb punk to beat a 220 lb monster with an ankle bar.


FYI, chess isn't a big spectator sport either.



It can be..yeah. That's why professional wrestling mutated from legitimate Catch wrestling matches into the spectacle it is today. Doesn't change the fact that it requires great skill. I am a catch wrestling fan myself.

 

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illmyrin  3 stars
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Jaedence posted:

It amazes me how popular this martial art still is with American Parents. It seems like there is a McDojo in every town.

Teach your kids wrestling, boxing or Brazilian Jiu Jitsu or you're wasting your money.



I spent 7 years with TKD before training BJJ. I'm more dangerous than a BJJ fighter and A LOT more dangerous than a regular TKD fighter.




There are benefits of training a hard kicking style. For example when I execute a sweep from the guard I'm using the same muscles I've used to throw a thousand crescent kicks. Or when I slap my leg down locking you into an arm, leg or knee bar(or ankle lock) my heel is delivered to your chest with the same speed and training I'd have dropped an axe kick with.


EDIT: One more thing to mention.. There is the TKD you're talking about,Blue wave TKD, the sport and then there is TDK, school of the red wave, which I trained within, which is not a sport. You're not allowed to spar in Red wave because it teaches you not to hit hard. You don't fight in tournaments in Red wave because you're to dangerous for sports. You don't see red wave trained fighters in MMA because people would die.

 

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Ashmaele  4 stars
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Galois2005 posted:

God I wish this MMA fad would die.



It is an order of magnitude better than boxing has been, at least since Sugar Ray Leonard and Marvin Hagler retired.

 

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eodoll  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-2-14 12:35:42
for winning most fights street fights? boxing.

if you can throw a punch where your opponent cant see it coming and you know where to strike then thats all you need.

you are not going to grapple in a street fight. most street fights end after a few punches.
Cawlin  4 stars
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eodoll posted:

for winning most fights street fights? boxing.

if you can throw a punch where your opponent cant see it coming and you know where to strike then thats all you need.

you are not going to grapple in a street fight. most street fights end after a few punches.



Actually, MOST street fights are more grappling than anything - BECAUSE nobody in them knows how to fight. They flail at each other and then clinch and grapple and fall to the ground. This is why all self-defense oriented martial arts will teach you how to avoid being grappled and to neutralize an attacker and stay on your feet and get away. The ground is dangerous outside the MMA ring - there's concrete, asphalt, curbs, broken glass, stones, sticks, other peoples' feet, cars, etc.

Street fights where ONE guy knows even a little bit about fighting end after a punch or two. These are the OVERWHELMINGLY vast minority of "street" fights - despite what you may have seen in Roadhouse. Most people that know anything about fighting are either a) also pretty savvy about avoiding a fight or b) already in jail because they didn't figure out how to avoid a fight.

Street fights between two folks who know how to fight don't actually happen outside of the movies with any frequency worth mentioning - it's like getting struck by lightning.

 

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Tych2  4 stars
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I love watching MMA. Much more entertaining than boxing. I find boxing incredibly boring.

 

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eodoll  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-2-14 12:35:42
obviously im talking about street fights where one guy knows how to box and the other guy is a loud mouth.

where both dont know how to fight then its ramdom.. sometimes it ends in a headlock. you can end any fight immediately in the stare down phase by throwing an elbow or punch direct dead center to the tip of the nose.
illmyrin  3 stars
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Registered: 2001-12-25 11:52:26
eodoll posted:

for winning most fights street fights? boxing.

if you can throw a punch where your opponent cant see it coming and you know where to strike then thats all you need.

you are not going to grapple in a street fight. most street fights end after a few punches.



Punching in a street fight


No thanks.

Elbows all day.

 

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RHWarrior  3 stars
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Jaedence posted:

It amazes me how popular this martial art still is with American Parents. It seems like there is a McDojo in every town.

Teach your kids wrestling, boxing or Brazilian Jiu Jitsu or you're wasting your money.



Ahh you still haven't matured beyond the
"My preferred martial arts discplines are THE BEST, screw the rest!"
attitude.

You'll get there!!

 

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Ashmaele posted:

Galois2005 posted:

God I wish this MMA fad would die.


It is an order of magnitude better than boxing has been, at least since Sugar Ray Leonard and Marvin Hagler retired.


Memories! Ash just gave me wood. Add Thomas Hearns to that mix and it was pure golden.

 

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