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Yukishiro1  4 stars
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When you only quote part of a sentence it generally makes you look dumber than the person you selectively quote. Or maybe you just don't understand grammar.
Sin_of_Onin  4 stars
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The sad thing is the those who want to cut government will walk away from this drivel and think they understand how things work and therefore how to approach cutting government. In the end they are just starting off their crusade without a sword but the wet noodle that is their ignorance.


If you want to cut government then it really helps that you are not an ignorant clown.

 

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Cawlin  4 stars
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Yukishiro1 posted:

paulg_68 posted:

The list is very insightful. Knowing the mechanisms of bureaucracy allows us to guard against bureaucracy growing out of control.



Not only is it not insightful but it gets things totally backwards. The list makes bureaucracy seem like some sort of conspiracy. If you think thats accurate you're doomed because that isn't how bureaucracies are at all.

What makes bureacracies so hard to fix is inertia and apathy, not some conspiracy by bureaucrats. The list is just fundamentally wrong on what bureaucracies actually are and how they function.



Where do you think inertia and apathy come from? Do you think they just sort of pop up like viruses, as some part of the Human condition or something?

 

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paulg_68  4 stars
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Yukishiro1 posted:

The list makes bureaucracy seem like some sort of conspiracy. If you think thats accurate you're doomed because that isn't how bureaucracies are at all.


I don't think it's a conspiracy and yet every day here you are following the script. It doesn't have to be a conspiracy to be true.

Humans are the greatest mimics this planet has ever produced. That more than anything is why we have risen above the other animals. It is our nature to mimic what we see working. We don't have to understand why we do it. Won't don't have to conspire to get other people to join us. It just happens.

Making people aware of the mechanism is a good thing.

 

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paulg_68  4 stars
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Yukishiro1 posted:

When you only quote part of a sentence it generally makes you look dumber than the person you selectively quote. Or maybe you just don't understand grammar.


I didn't feel like going back for a quote where you said the exact same thing in complete sentence. Are you denying you expressed the sentiment previously?

Care to address the point now?

 

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Yukishiro1  4 stars
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When you title your piece "the 7 rules of bureacracy" but in fact your 7 rules have nothing to do with bureaucracy particularly and are actually less accurate at describing bureacracy than describing the general state of human affairs you probably have a pretty stupid piece of writing.


That you are wedded to this particularly stupid attack on a phenomenon worthy of attack is puzzling. Why use a weak attack when you can use a potent attack?


There's hardly any shortage of indictments of bureacracy or exposes of how it actually works in practice. This one is a poor example. It really does nothing to enlighten.
Sin_of_Onin  4 stars
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Yukishiro1 posted:

When you title your piece "the 7 rules of bureacracy" but in fact your 7 rules have nothing to do with bureaucracy particularly and are actually less accurate at describing bureacracy than describing the general state of human affairs you probably have a pretty stupid piece of writing.


That you are wedded to this particularly stupid attack on a phenomenon worthy of attack is puzzling. Why use a weak attack when you can use a potent attack?


There's hardly any shortage of indictments of bureacracy or exposes of how it actually works in practice. This one is a poor example. It really does nothing to enlighten.



Exactly.


Look at the first point they try and make. It is stupid and it is a far bigger claim than the anti government crowd needs to make.

 

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paulg_68  4 stars
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Yukishiro1 posted:

That you are wedded to this particularly stupid attack on a phenomenon worthy of attack is puzzling. Why use a weak attack when you can use a potent attack?

There's hardly any shortage of indictments of bureacracy or exposes of how it actually works in practice. This one is a poor example. It really does nothing to enlighten.


Okay, post links please.

 

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This list is sophomoric.

 

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paulg_68  4 stars
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