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Yukishiro1  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
7A is actually a prime example of what is stupid about the list. It has nothing to do with bureaucracy. It applies to anything people do. By singling out bureaucracy for something that is just what humans do it comes off as stupid and ideologically motivated rather than funny and insightful.

Also, the fact that it started as 7 rule list but then the author can't help himself adding in some extra rules is silly. It could have been smart and witty if he had taken it further to show how 1 "rule" in the administrative law context often ends up being 50 pages long (i.e. rule 7(a)(1)(C)(iii), but it was neither here nor there so it just looks dumb.
Modeeb  4 stars
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I believe Yuki is right on about the fifty pages -maybe 500 pages. The absurdity of bureaucracies was captured by Franz Kafka better than anyone.

 

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paulg_68  4 stars
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So the list is invalid because it includes things that are known to be true in other contexts?

 

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Aerlinthian  4 stars
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paulg_68 posted:

So the list is invalid because it includes things that are known to be true in other contexts?





No, the list is valid.

It is retarded, however, to automatically assume without any critical analysis that the culprit (Bureaucracy) is actually the root cause of the list and not just a drive by smearing by an organization that hates government and would rather descend civilization into the Hobbsian Jungle where they think they're the alphas.

http://mises.org/

OHWAIT, that's EXACTLY where it is from. An organization dedicated to spreading one of the more poorly supported economic theories out there, that always blames the government.

 

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paulg_68  4 stars
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False dichotomy. There are more options than totalitarianism and anarchy.

 

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Fist_de_Yuma  3 stars
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Registered: 2001-12-20 21:17:22
paulg_68 posted:

So you don't think that list describes the war on drugs and the war on terror?





Sure does. It is why few involved will admit how much of a failure it is. The demand is for more of the same. You could not find someone who hates drug use more than me. I have seen it destroy lives. It killed my brother. Nevertheless it is a failure. It is such a total failure it makes you wonder if it was deliberate. Lot of money involved. Solving it would put a lot of people out of work, on both sides.

 

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Cawlin  4 stars
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Well there is one literal truth that is ubiquitous for any and all bureaucracies, and that is that the PRIMARY goal, or prime directive, if you will, is to ensure the continued survival of the bureaucracy.

The rules in the article are the means by which bureaucracies ensure their own survival. Once you accept that any bureaucracy's primary goal is to keep itself "alive" or functioning, regardless of what "mission statement" or actual initiative/goal/or project serves as the ostensible purpose of that bureaucracy, the rules posted sum up exactly how such entities seek to keep themselves in existence and also seek to propagate and multiply their presence and influence.

 

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Elkad  2 stars
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"The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy"

 

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reesescups  4 stars
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Registered: 2003-5-26 14:45:53
Fist_de_Yuma posted:

paulg_68 posted:

So you don't think that list describes the war on drugs and the war on terror?





Sure does. It is why few involved will admit how much of a failure it is. The demand is for more of the same. You could not find someone who hates drug use more than me. I have seen it destroy lives. It killed my brother. Nevertheless it is a failure. It is such a total failure it makes you wonder if it was deliberate. Lot of money involved. Solving it would put a lot of people out of work, on both sides.

So Fist is against the 'War on Drugs' and the 'War on Terror'...

 

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