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Sin_of_Onin  4 stars
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Registered: 2005-6-29 08:21:12
Honestly the idea that the only way to empower labor is by shooting the consumer in the head is getting old.

 

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GrilledCheez  4 stars
Title: The Lord's Balls
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Registered: 2006-3-22 11:06:32
making them cheaper through tax and spend is clearly superior. I've always said the best way to empower someone is make them poorer.

Me and this guy agree:

 

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Sin_of_Onin  4 stars
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Says the person who doesn't know who pays the cost for his ideas.

 

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reesescups  4 stars
Title: //Captain America
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Fist_de_Yuma posted:

This equal stuff totally forgets that our, "poor" live better than the very rich 100 years ago.

Um - no, no they don't - not in any way measurable.

 

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imaloon1  3 stars
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Yukishiro1 posted:

I don't have a beef with unions. In general.

Protectionism doesn't work, though. We tried that and it caused the great depression.



That is not what caused the great depression FYI.

 

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theredkay1  3 stars
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Registered: 2008-5-16 10:37:09
Trade policy that opens up labor competition in some industries while protecting other industries (medical, legal, finance) produces very predictable outcomes...especially when you make an effort to overvalue the dollar for 2 decades. Free trade is really a misnomer when it only applies to a select group of products and services.

Trade is a wonderful thing. We should throw open the doors for labor and products in more industries. You can get a similar effect from rolling back government regulations that limit competition and therefore drive up prices and profit margins (aka patents, copyrights). A large drop in the cost of medical/legal/financial products and services would be a huge boost for those suffering from diminished wages.

You really dont see anyone in DC suggesting these ideas.
paulg_68  4 stars
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Registered: 2009-7-27 18:45:54
Best way to help labor is produce fewer laborers.

Reduce supply and the price goes up.

It's funny that Obama and the Democrats now agree with me on this subject. They said so over and over again during the "free" birth control debate.

It's usually just a matter of time before people come around to my way of thinking.

 

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GrilledCheez  4 stars
Title: The Lord's Balls
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Registered: 2006-3-22 11:06:32
Sin_of_Onin posted:

Says the person who doesn't know who pays the cost for his ideas.



Does it bother you that your argument is the EXACT argument that monied interests use against healthcare, anti-trust, labor unions in the mid 1900s, and nearly any time anyone does anything to try to empower labor? You think you're new and edgy because you realize costs will go up if we see wage inflation?

STOP THE PRESSES! IF YOU PAY PEOPLE A LIVING WAGE YOUR GRILL WILL COST MORE!!!!

 

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Sin_of_Onin  4 stars
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GrilledCheez posted:

Sin_of_Onin posted:

Says the person who doesn't know who pays the cost for his ideas.



Does it bother you that your argument is the EXACT argument that monied interests use against healthcare, anti-trust, labor unions in the mid 1900s, and nearly any time anyone does anything to try to empower labor? You think you're new and edgy because you realize costs will go up if we see wage inflation?

STOP THE PRESSES! IF YOU PAY PEOPLE A LIVING WAGE YOUR GRILL WILL COST MORE!!!!





Try harder to not even understand the issue. Neither side of the issue as a matter of fact.

It is hard to argue with someone about health care he refuses to look at all the other countries that have UHC.

It is hard to argue with someone about trade when they refuse to look at the history of trade.

 

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GrilledCheez  4 stars
Title: The Lord's Balls
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Registered: 2006-3-22 11:06:32
Sin_of_Onin posted:

GrilledCheez posted:

Sin_of_Onin posted:

Says the person who doesn't know who pays the cost for his ideas.



Does it bother you that your argument is the EXACT argument that monied interests use against healthcare, anti-trust, labor unions in the mid 1900s, and nearly any time anyone does anything to try to empower labor? You think you're new and edgy because you realize costs will go up if we see wage inflation?

STOP THE PRESSES! IF YOU PAY PEOPLE A LIVING WAGE YOUR GRILL WILL COST MORE!!!!





Try harder to not even understand the issue. Neither side of the issue as a matter of fact.

It is hard to argue with someone about health care he refuses to look at all the other countries that have UHC.

It is hard to argue with someone about trade when they refuse to look at the history of trade.



LOL. OK packhunter. Thanks for visiting the thread. I'm glad your team's plans have worked so well and wages are up and unemployment is down. Oh, I forget it's a complicated issue. Much moreso than when we tackled it in the past, because we have walmarts now.

 

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