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GrilledCheez  4 stars
Title: The Lord's Balls
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Registered: 2006-3-22 11:06:32
resets the baseline to welfare and makes everyone working poorer relative to everyone else. That is what i find funny about the old saying: conservatives want the rich to get richer, liberals want everyone to get poorer.

It's sad because nobody is actually saying what I want to hear. Neither side wants to empower labor. Conservatives want to marginalize them and dems want to own them. And no I dont' think it's some nefarious plan, but the end result to both philosophies are obvious, and have never been more obvious than right now.

 

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ZigmundZag  4 stars
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BRING BACK THE CHEEZUS!

 

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imaloon1  3 stars
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Registered: 2003-9-15 07:19:53
GrilledCheez posted:

resets the baseline to welfare and makes everyone working poorer relative to everyone else. That is what i find funny about the old saying: conservatives want the rich to get richer, liberals want everyone to get poorer.

It's sad because nobody is actually saying what I want to hear. Neither side wants to empower labor. Conservatives want to marginalize them and dems want to own them. And no I dont' think it's some nefarious plan, but the end result to both philosophies are obvious, and have never been more obvious than right now.



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Yukishiro1  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
If by empowering labor you mean closing down the borders to foreign trade I am not sure that's a superior strategy. I am not sure the secret to restoring america's middle class is to make them buy more expensive clothes and electronics.
GrilledCheez  4 stars
Title: The Lord's Balls
Posts: 1,060
Registered: 2006-3-22 11:06:32
do you think labor unions were ever a good idea? if so what made them successful? What allowed unions to thrive and produce positive results? Do you think if there were other forces at play, forces the pols in the mid 1900s were extra afraid of that the market would have been just as good as unions?

 

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Yukishiro1  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
I don't have a beef with unions. In general.

Protectionism doesn't work, though. We tried that and it caused the great depression.
Fist_de_Yuma  3 stars
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Registered: 2001-12-20 21:17:22
So those that work harder and take risks will be taxed to support those who don't. Then everyone will be equal. Of course no one will bother to work harder or take risks but heck, they will all be equal.

This equal stuff totally forgets that our, "poor" live better than the very rich 100 years ago. Hell, I would killed for a cell phone, internet or even cable when I was a kid. You suckers don't even know how good you have it.

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GrilledCheez  4 stars
Title: The Lord's Balls
Posts: 1,060
Registered: 2006-3-22 11:06:32
"protectionism" has always been at play in one way or another. The only way to describe pro union legislation is protectionist. So if you have a beef with any protectionist policies then you by default have a beef with unions. Unless we are about to have another Paulesque semantic debate, where you never deny anything about actually being for or against unions but argue the meaning of the words all night.

free labor is the antithesis of labor protections. They are called protections because they are protectionist, BTW.

 

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Bonzoboy1  3 stars
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I benefited from protectionism, last year the U.S. put a tariff on Chinese aluminum and my business increased.

 

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Friarspam  3 stars
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It's "pox".

 

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