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GrilledCheez  4 stars
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Registered: 2006-3-22 11:06:32
Yukishiro1 posted:

Cerantos posted:

So you support companies pulling ground beef that's affordable and safe off of the shelves.



No. I support relabeling it so people can make informed decisions. I thought I made that clear in the other 10 posts I've made in this thread.

You seem pretty dumb.

Pink slime is not ground beef. It's something else. If pink slime is great for America people will still buy their ground beef even if the maker is honest about it and admits its 25% pink slime.



pink slime is still beef. If they run water over beef it doesn't cease being beef. If they mix water in while they grind it it doesn't cease being beef. If they mix water in then run it off it is the exact beef you started with. if they mix water now with a little soap that does nothing but kill things that aren't beef, how can you be left with less beef than with the water alone?

I don't get your it's not beef argument at all. none of your arguments in this thread make sense Yuki. Are you feeling ok? HAs the knowledge of pink slime given you the vapors?

 

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Cerantos  1 star
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Registered: 2002-4-9 07:23:33
GrilledCheez posted:

Yukishiro1 posted:

Cerantos posted:

So you support companies pulling ground beef that's affordable and safe off of the shelves.



No. I support relabeling it so people can make informed decisions. I thought I made that clear in the other 10 posts I've made in this thread.

You seem pretty dumb.

Pink slime is not ground beef. It's something else. If pink slime is great for America people will still buy their ground beef even if the maker is honest about it and admits its 25% pink slime.



pink slime is still beef. If they run water over beef it doesn't cease being beef. If they mix water in while they grind it it doesn't cease being beef. If they mix water in then run it off it is the exact beef you started with. if they mix water now with a little soap that does nothing but kill things that aren't beef, how can you be left with less beef than with the water alone?

I don't get your it's not beef argument at all. none of your arguments in this thread make sense Yuki. Are you feeling ok? HAs the knowledge of pink slime given you the vapors?



The whole pink slime thing is disingenuous at best.

 

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Yukishiro1  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
GrilledCheez posted:

pink slime is still beef. If they run water over beef it doesn't cease being beef. If they mix water in while they grind it it doesn't cease being beef. If they mix water in then run it off it is the exact beef you started with. if they mix water now with a little soap that does nothing but kill things that aren't beef, how can you be left with less beef than with the water alone?

I don't get your it's not beef argument at all. none of your arguments in this thread make sense Yuki. Are you feeling ok? HAs the knowledge of pink slime given you the vapors?



They don't just run water over it. They take beef trimmings, heat them up and spin them around centrifuge to seperate the fat, then pass it through the ammonia gas (which I don't really care about).

As I've said like five times, it's not that it isn't beef. It's that it isn't ground beef. You shouldn't be able to advertise something as ground beef when it isn't. Ground beef implies all you did was grind up the beef. Not that you heat it up and spun it around in a centrifuge to get rid of the fat that would otherwise make it inedible.

If they want to advertise it as "ground beef mixed with 25% lean, finely textured beef" that's fine. Advertising something as ground meat that actually contains 25% of another meat product is deceptive and shouldn't be allowed.
GrilledCheez  4 stars
Title: The Lord's Balls
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Registered: 2006-3-22 11:06:32
was it ground? Was it beef? Again I'm not sure consumer knowledge is high enouh generally to trigger the requirement you are trying to put on this. I mean if you want to argue generally that meat producers need to be more forthcoming with techniques and manipulations fine. but that's not really what this outrage is about. Pretending it is makes you look naive. Like a 1990's salaryman looking for underwear at the farmer's market on a tuesday afternoon.

 

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Yukishiro1  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
GrilledCheez posted:

was it ground?



Apparently not, actually. Hence the whole "slime" moniker. It's a pastey sorta thing apparently.

But even beyond that, I don't think you can call something "ground meat" if you actually did 50 weird things to it before you ground it up. Ground meat implies it was ground up from a semi-natural state, not ground up after you poked and prodded it with chemicals and machines for a couple hours.

There should be guidelines that force them to disclose whether their "ground meat" is real honest to goodness ground meat or whether they're doing weird crap to it first or mixing it with meat paste or what have you. I'm kinda surprised you think they should be able to hide the fact that their "ground meat" is actually 25% not ground meat.
GrilledCheez  4 stars
Title: The Lord's Balls
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I don't know. I know most poultry is pumped full of stuff and still sold as "natural state." So ground poultry would pretty much automatically meet your requirement of needing to be called something besides ground poultry.

unfortunately I don't have the energy to google whether or not beef does too, so I will just guess it does. i'd take my word for it if I were you.

 

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Yukishiro1  4 stars
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I wouldn't know either. I buy 95% of my meat straight from the local organic butcher where the chicken is just chicken and the beef is just beef.

But I don't see why you're so eager to let Big Meat market its products as stuff it clearly isn't. You shouldn't be able to adulterate your "ground meat" with 25% meat paste and then hide that from people.
GrilledCheez  4 stars
Title: The Lord's Balls
Posts: 1,060
Registered: 2006-3-22 11:06:32
meat paste versus ground meat just doesn't seem like a big deal. And I think it wouldn't be to anyone if it didn't look gross. Think about it. if the traditional grinding was through a .2 inch hole and that is what everyone did for years, but some guy found out he could use more anus and less testicle if he used a .15 inch hole, but everything else was exactly the same nobody would care. There would be no outrage over full hole size disclosure.

If it looked gross in some intermediate step though then YOU GOD DAMN BETTER BE PUTTING IT ON THE LABEL.

 

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Yukishiro1  4 stars
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I really don't know why you are whoring yourself out for Big Meat here to protect their right to mislead their customers. Except for your general like of whoring yourself, of course.
GrilledCheez  4 stars
Title: The Lord's Balls
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Registered: 2006-3-22 11:06:32
Not just "like" my friend. loving your work is the secret to happiness.

 

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