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Grymlo  2 stars
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Registered: 2002-4-30 05:51:06
vn_nnanji posted:

Oh right. The witness who saw just enough.

While the kid, who ws actually there saw nobody punching anyone.

Actually you CAN make this shit up. And that is exactly what you are doing.



So im making up linking stories on all the major networks supporting what im posting

My linked storys witness made it up while yours has nothing to offer at all

Guess we can all go grab a beer and call it a night!

 

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Jaedence  1 star
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If the interview took place immedeiatly after the alleged "horrific beating" bruises might noit have had time to form but bl;ood would still be there.

If the interview took place an hour after the alleged "horrific beating" bruises would be prominant and the "broken nose" would be discolored and black and blue.

So, if he was really in fear for his life, he would, at some point, show blood on his clothes and or bruising at some point.

So far it appears no pictures show him mussed up in any way.
vn_nnanji  4 stars
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Registered: 2001-6-30 17:22:56
Grymlo posted:

vn_nnanji posted:

Oh right. The witness who saw just enough.

While the kid, who ws actually there saw nobody punching anyone.

Actually you CAN make this shit up. And that is exactly what you are doing.



So im making up linking stories on all the major networks supporting what im posting

My linked storys witness made it up while yours has nothing to offer at all

Guess we can all go grab a beer and call it a night!



Says the guy who turned "I couldn't see who was who" into "I didn't see anything." Did I mention you only accept witnesses and "facts" that support your version of this? Why don't you go look at all the major networks and see what they are saying. ALL of what they are saying, not just what you want to be true. Of course you will swallow anything that supports Zimmerman like a crack whore working for a fix, and dismiss anything that doesn't with the blindness of a mole rat.

"Zimmerman shows no injuries." They cleaned him up...look, you can see a smudge on his head!
"Zimmerman's story has conflicts." He was dazed and confused from the savage beating!
"I saw the one kid on top." SEE! He was fighting for his life!
" I didn't see anyone hitting anyone." See? He didn't see anything!

Talk about Grym's fairy tales.

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Bowlartz  1 star
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The 13 year old witness couldn't see what was going on before running after his dog. His Mother is making claims that the police tried to lead the 13 year old into saying that Zimmerman was in control during the fight and that it couldn't have been self defense. The quote from the Mother:

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/28/10909475-witness-mom-says-police-told-her-trayvon-martin-shooting-wasnt-self-defense


"The shooting occurred Feb. 26, and Brown's son called 911 to report it at the time. But police didn't seek to question him until March 2, Brown said. She wasn't home, so they returned March 5, meaning eight days passed before police actually questioned a key eyewitness.

"I was waiting every day for someone to come knocking on the door," she said.

Once they did, Brown alleged, police tried to lead her son to agree to certain assertions, such as the race of the person on the ground and what he was wearing. But the boy stuck to his insistence that he couldn't make out either because it was too dark.

Brown alleged that the lead investigator "told me this was not self-defense," saying she should "read between the lines" because "this was racial stereotyping."

Martin was black; Zimmerman is Hispanic.

She said the investigator said he had children of his own "and seemed angered by it," saying, "I need to prove this was not self-defense."


The 13 year old couldn't see and to compound things, his Mother is claiming the police were pressuring him to say he saw something he did not. This witness is actually terribly damaging for the prospects of prosecution due to the obvious attempt to tamper.

The main witness named "John" is an adult who saw the fight happening (not from the start) is on the police record and a TV interview as having said he saw Trayvon on top of Zimmerman beating him while he cried out like a wee school girl. The witness yelled at Trayvon to stop and said he was calling police...which he did, there is a 911 call from him. When he got done with the call he checked back and saw Trayvon now dead.

That's it.

 

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Ardenwolfe  2 stars
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Registered: 2002-12-11 14:47:24
Wait. You guys are now saying the police allowed Zimmerman to change his clothes after the incident and then took him down to the station?

. . .

Are you serious?

 

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Ashmaele  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-1-15 08:30:50
Grymlo posted:

ZigmundZag posted:

Grymlo posted:

This vid is pretty irrelevant unless we know the time difference between his ER stay and this vid. ALL injured assault victims are taken to the ER and may spend hours there to get cleaned up, new clothes if family brings it in and observation when head injuries are involved.

Peroxide and some 4x4s will clean up blood very nicely. If you ever need to remove blood from clothes just use some peroxide as well.

Everything I've read on this indicates that Martin received medical attention on the scene before being taken to the police station. He wasn't transported to the ER. Not that it makes much of a difference unless you were really buying into the "broken nose/bashed head" line that was being fed through various sources.



Im sure he was treated on scene but im pretty sure i read that he was taken to the ER as well. Could be wrong though.



Zimmerman's own attorney said that Zimmerman requested to be taken to the ER but instead the ebbil cops chose to take him to the station for questioning.

Lawyers are known liars though so FWIW!

 

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vn_nnanji  4 stars
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Bowlartz posted:

The 13 year old witness couldn't see what was going on before running after his dog. His Mother is making claims that the police tried to lead the 13 year old into saying that Zimmerman was in control during the fight and that it couldn't have been self defense. The quote from the Mother:

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/28/10909475-witness-mom-says-police-told-her-trayvon-martin-shooting-wasnt-self-defense


"The shooting occurred Feb. 26, and Brown's son called 911 to report it at the time. But police didn't seek to question him until March 2, Brown said. She wasn't home, so they returned March 5, meaning eight days passed before police actually questioned a key eyewitness.

"I was waiting every day for someone to come knocking on the door," she said.

Once they did, Brown alleged, police tried to lead her son to agree to certain assertions, such as the race of the person on the ground and what he was wearing. But the boy stuck to his insistence that he couldn't make out either because it was too dark.

Brown alleged that the lead investigator "told me this was not self-defense," saying she should "read between the lines" because "this was racial stereotyping."

Martin was black; Zimmerman is Hispanic.

She said the investigator said he had children of his own "and seemed angered by it," saying, "I need to prove this was not self-defense."


The 13 year old couldn't see and to compound things, his Mother is claiming the police were pressuring him to say he saw something he did not. This witness is actually terribly damaging for the prospects of prosecution due to the obvious attempt to tamper.

The main witness named "John" is an adult who saw the fight happening (not from the start) is on the police record and a TV interview as having said he saw Trayvon on top of Zimmerman beating him while he cried out like a wee school girl. The witness yelled at Trayvon to stop and said he was calling police...which he did, there is a 911 call from him. When he got done with the call he checked back and saw Trayvon now dead.

That's it.



Why do people feel that repeating something changes it's meaning?

 

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Ardenwolfe posted:

Wait. You guys are now saying the police allowed Zimmerman to change his clothes after the incident and then took him down to the station?

. . .

Are you serious?



Well, he does look really white and therefore privileged to all that entails.

 

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cabbyman  2 stars
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http://www.krcrtv.com/news/30758511/detail.html

George Zimmerman's description is outlined in an Orlando Sentinel article that cited "authorities" as the source of its information. The Sanford Police Department subsequently released a statement that, while condemning what it called"unauthorized leaks," confirmed the newspaper account "is consistent with the information provided to the State Attorney's office by the police department."

"As to Zimmerman, "his back appeared to be wet and was covered in grass (and he) was also bleeding, from the nose and back of his head," according to the same report."

 

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Bowlartz posted:

The 13 year old witness couldn't see what was going on before running after his dog. His Mother is making claims that the police tried to lead the 13 year old into saying that Zimmerman was in control during the fight and that it couldn't have been self defense. The quote from the Mother:

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/28/10909475-witness-mom-says-police-told-her-trayvon-martin-shooting-wasnt-self-defense


"The shooting occurred Feb. 26, and Brown's son called 911 to report it at the time. But police didn't seek to question him until March 2, Brown said. She wasn't home, so they returned March 5, meaning eight days passed before police actually questioned a key eyewitness.

"I was waiting every day for someone to come knocking on the door," she said.

Once they did, Brown alleged, police tried to lead her son to agree to certain assertions, such as the race of the person on the ground and what he was wearing. But the boy stuck to his insistence that he couldn't make out either because it was too dark.

Brown alleged that the lead investigator "told me this was not self-defense," saying she should "read between the lines" because "this was racial stereotyping."

Martin was black; Zimmerman is Hispanic.

She said the investigator said he had children of his own "and seemed angered by it," saying, "I need to prove this was not self-defense."


The 13 year old couldn't see and to compound things, his Mother is claiming the police were pressuring him to say he saw something he did not. This witness is actually terribly damaging for the prospects of prosecution due to the obvious attempt to tamper.

The main witness named "John" is an adult who saw the fight happening (not from the start) is on the police record and a TV interview as having said he saw Trayvon on top of Zimmerman beating him while he cried out like a wee school girl. The witness yelled at Trayvon to stop and said he was calling police...which he did, there is a 911 call from him. When he got done with the call he checked back and saw Trayvon now dead.

That's it.



Yup, from reading that article, looks like the kid came upon the aftermath of the incident, not the altercation. Saw Martin on the ground, wanted to help but his dog ran off and he chased the dog. Then the police tried to coerce an account out of him. I don't know what good his testimony would be in the trial other than to indict the officer.

 

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