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__Bonk__  5 stars
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paulg_68 posted:

The most important thing to remember about Zimmerman is that he isn't white.


 

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Grymlo  2 stars
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"And at that point, not looking out the window, I heard the yell for help, one yell for help, and then I heard another ... excruciating type of yell. It didn't almost sound like 'help.' It just sounded so painful.


This only verifies that someone was possibly in fear for their life. Other than that this witness doesnt provide any useful details.

 

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cabbyman  2 stars
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A couple things:

1) In a recording of Zimmerman's call to police, some people have said they hear what sounds like a possible racial slur. CNN enhanced the sound of the 911 call, and several members of CNN's editorial staff repeatedly reviewed the tape, but could reach no consensus on whether Zimmerman used a slur

2) If Zimmerman's actions seven years ago are relevant does that mean Trayvon's actions (drugs, suspension, etc...) are relevant?

3) How is this witness different from the many others who heard, but didn't see, something?

Pretty damning stuff!!!

 

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cabbyman posted:

2) If Zimmerman's actions seven years ago are relevant does that mean Trayvon's actions (drugs, suspension, etc...) are relevant?



only if you're really desperate to defend Zimmerman - Trayvon wasn't doing anything illegal, and did not seek out the confrontation with Zimmerman. Zimmerman, on the other hand, acted irrationally in following and confronting Trayvon and exhibits a clear pattern of behavior.

there's a reason the 911 operator didn't want Zimmerman to follow Trayvon, and it led to the worst-case scenario and will make Zimmerman the poster case for the wrong way to be in a neighborhood watch. after that call he switched from responsible neighborhood watch member to charles bronson wannabe, and it cost Trayvon his life for no reason.

 

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It also appears Zimmerman got his nose checked out the very next day and it was broken. If that is true as his lawyer says there will be medical records.

I am sure the folks who want to see him on death row will claim he broke it himself as cover.

 

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cabbyman  2 stars
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SirGarth posted:

cabbyman posted:

2) If Zimmerman's actions seven years ago are relevant does that mean Trayvon's actions (drugs, suspension, etc...) are relevant?



only if you're really desperate to defend Zimmerman - Trayvon wasn't doing anything illegal, and did not seek out the confrontation with Zimmerman. Zimmerman, on the other hand, acted irrationally in following and confronting Trayvon and exhibits a clear pattern of behavior.

there's a reason the 911 operator didn't want Zimmerman to follow Trayvon, and it led to the worst-case scenario and will make Zimmerman the poster case for the wrong way to be in a neighborhood watch. after that call he switched from responsible neighborhood watch member to charles bronson wannabe, and it cost Trayvon his life for no reason.



Zimmerman was the neighborhood watch person. He was supposed to do what he did.

The person who initiated the physical altercation was the one who cost Trayvon his life.

I expect a trial will bring that information to light.

 

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-Espiritu-  2 stars
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Zimmerman's dad was interviewed last night by local TV in Florida, and stated that his son was returning to his car after the 911 operator told him to. It was then that Martin instigated the physical alteration.

Nobody commenting in this thread, including me, actually knows what happened. People simply gravitate to the story they want to believe. My initial response was that we had a textbook "buff" that got himself into a bad situation which he made tragically worse. Seeing all the racists descend on that community, and seeing vapid libtards politicizing this tragedy, has me gravitating to stories that would lead to Zimmerman's exoneration.

 

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ineenia  2 stars
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cabbyman posted:

Zimmerman was the neighborhood watch person. He was supposed to do what he did.



No he was not,neighborhood watches report suspicious behavior to the police,they do not chase or follow people,they do not confront people,they don't carry weapons,and they don't kill the neighborhood teenagers,they also don't lie to the police.

 

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Kjarhall  3 stars
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cabbyman posted:

SirGarth posted:

cabbyman posted:

2) If Zimmerman's actions seven years ago are relevant does that mean Trayvon's actions (drugs, suspension, etc...) are relevant?



only if you're really desperate to defend Zimmerman - Trayvon wasn't doing anything illegal, and did not seek out the confrontation with Zimmerman. Zimmerman, on the other hand, acted irrationally in following and confronting Trayvon and exhibits a clear pattern of behavior.

there's a reason the 911 operator didn't want Zimmerman to follow Trayvon, and it led to the worst-case scenario and will make Zimmerman the poster case for the wrong way to be in a neighborhood watch. after that call he switched from responsible neighborhood watch member to charles bronson wannabe, and it cost Trayvon his life for no reason.



Zimmerman was the neighborhood watch person. He was supposed to do what he did.



Incorrect, even the written guidelines say he wasn't.

http://www.sanfordfl.gov/investigation/docs/NWProgramHandbook.pdf

You will add your "eyes and ears" to those of the Police Department which cannot be everywhere, all the time, by keeping a watchful eye and open ear to what is happening in your neighborhood. You will extend their ability to provide security by reporting anything unusual or suspicious, 24 hours a day, seven days a week, so they can follow up on your leads. What you will not do is get physically involved with any activity you report or apprehension of any suspicious persons. This is the job of the law enforcement agency.

Pg. 15 #10 - Do not take any risks to prevent a crime or try to make an arrest. The responsibility for apprehending criminals belongs to the Police Department

His following is taking a risk, and getting physically involved, which is exactly why the 911 dispatcher told him to not do it. His "job" as a neighborhood watch person ended the moment after he called 911.

 

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ZigmundZag  4 stars
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Altra_Shadowstalker posted:

I don't really care about this either way except that I want to see justice done. At this point, I think it would be best if there's a trial, even if they find the guy Not Guilty. Everyone involved would benefit from a trial, IMO. This guy doesn't want this hanging over his head if he isn't guilty, and should fear a trial if he is.

Yes, because racially-charged trials with no convictions have done so much good for society in the past.

 

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