Yes, the bitterness eats at my soul. Maybe someday I will learn to be happy again. But until then... a question: if there were 2000 people on the dreds back in the day, how many were there in DAoC altogether? Someone must know... according to Wikipedia it was 210,000 in January of '03. So 2,000 is to 210,000 as x is to 10,000. Hmm, my earlier estimate may have been high.

 

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It's the environment which encourages playerbase behavior, not the playerbase so much themselves. A lot of Mordred players are on Ywain right now and don't cause trouble. Furthermore, Gaheris players could choose not have to participate in the PvP Battleground. The majority of Gaheris players I have spoken to actually like the concept of adding some more content and options to the server. It even makes useless ML abilities on the server finally worthwhile.

 

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You're comparing apples and oranges. First of all, total subscriptions does not equate to total players currently on the server. Also, total subscriptions would include any Mordred players, so you would be double counting. Also, a lot of Mordred players enjoyed both the PvP ruleset and the RvR ruleset on the same account, so it would be difficult to differentiate people into distinct playerbases.

 

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Agree with all those points if you're trying to do an exact calculation. Point is it was always a small percentage, and saying '2000 back in the day' is meaningless. It's a tiny number now, and if EA has one or two programmers working on DAoC now what would you want them doing? Making changes to support Mordred's players?

 

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You're such a fool. I said 2,000 at any time, not total. There were about 17 servers around during January of '03, and many of those servers were lower population than mordred. Assuming even average distribution case, that would indicate that Mordred had well over 12,000 players just in those months (you're probably incapable of doing the math to get to that number). That's not even taking into account the accumulation of players over the lifetime of the server and times that Mordred was actually booming while the other servers were losing, like shortly after NF was released.

Also, you can not do a simple scaling of "2,000 is to 210,000 as x is to 10,000". The population behavior is nonlinear, and Mordred no longer represents the same proportion of player-base today than what it used to 8 years ago.

The point is that there were a significant amount of players that played on Mordred, and Mythic has lost a significant amount of its business by losing these players. If Mythic even got back 1% of the former players of Mordred, that would be a huge boost in the total subs it has now. Of course, that's assuming that just making the characters usable again will cause the players to resub, which is not entirely a realistic assumption, but it can give you the inclination that it might be worth the time to attract these players back.

Most people don't care that they can ignore the BG, most simply say "I DON'T WANT THEM HERE!! WHINE WHINE WHINE!!!". I agree that with the RoC actually being in place on Gaheris, as it isn't on Mordred, the behavior would be far better, and thus I was looking forward to a BG. But an actual 'merge' of the playerbases wouldn't go over nearly as well as if they just added a BG and 'encouraged' Mordred players to play on Gaheris. I look forward to new blood joining the server, and as a former RvR player, I can deal with someone who doesn't fix the exact mold of what Gaheris players expect players to fit into.


That said, I'm still really unhappy that Mythic has decided to put Molvik on hold, and will probably let my 3 accounts expire when they're up for renewal. I'll miss DAoC terribly, but I haven't played FFs 5-9 in a while, or Morrowind, and Fallout 3 (and New Vegas) could probably use another (first) playthrough.

 

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Another way to put it into perspective is that Mordred by itself competed with the clusters in population after the first round of clustering. For one server to have more popularity than a cluster of servers speaks a lot. Also, many people didn't even know what Mordred was or had ever even tried Mordred. Even up to the death of Mordred I came across a lot of noobs that didn't even realize they were playing on a pvp server.

Mordred got little endorsement from Mythic, and it could have turned out that many DAoC players would have loved the Mordred rule set had they ever put the investment into it. There really is far too many bitter people that had a bad experience on Mordred and think their 1 time logging in can speak for everyone else who spent years there. They have tainted Mordred's image since its start and they need to stop whining.

Yeah, I might be a fool, but then again I am not here on a message board for a ten year-old game that is down to its last server, trying to get the least popular version of that game reinvigorated.

 

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But then again you're here on a message board for a ten year-old game that is down to its last server, trying to argue against getting the least popular version of that game reinvigorated when it has nothing to do with any of your interest.

Yeah, well, I don't exactly care, but like most board users I tend to react to what I read, and when I read that someone thought Ywain would take a population hit if transfers were opened to Mordred, I was amused.

The PvP servers always were the red-headed stepchild in the DAoC world. The people who played there represented a small fraction of the overall playerbase. Few people cared what happened to them then, and I'm sure even fewer care now. Every time these threads come up the majority opinion is "it's over, move on" and yet they come up again and again.

 

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