You do know that with EA’s history, once a company goes fully to them it’s most likely the shelf and rot right? The best thing for DAOC would be to remove themselves from EA and become their own entity. Look how much better DAOC was when it was just Mythic before all these mergers? The game had more attention, more updates, patches, char updates, additions, and Dev’s / CR personel that had contact with the people. Grab Bags, Year in Reviews that actually said things.. etc/

 

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Well I think the ban on Dev bashing is a good idea and VN isn't trying to quash this news specifically. Since VN mods are payed upwards of eleventy million starburst(tm) fruit candies a year for their work, I'm sure they are all to busy visiting the dentist to have the time to verify each link that already passes the Dev Bashing smell test. So it goes.

 

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You can find these threads on several VN boards, we aren't locking the topics (other than duplicates), so we aren't trying to cap anything. And there is certainly enough information that anyone should be able to find the link quite easily.

The link had a lot of just blatant dev bashing and some profanity in it, so it had to be removed. But ya'll are free to continue discussing the topics the person brought up.

Hey look, Ravynmagi is back from the dentist!

 

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I don't know dude. Did you ever see/read/play the debaucle that was WAR upon release? Imagine going to take an enemy relic and everyone gets forced to join the relic siege. No BGs, no ganking around and such. Then make the relic last 6 hours.


6 hours of no roaming, no BGs, no nothing except a little PvE and the relic siege. Now imagine this 6 hour relic siege to have no PvP/RvR in it. Not 1 single enemy to kill in this forced 6 hour experience. Furthermore, eyes remaining closed, imagine these 6 hours are spent doing a PvE encounter. Next, make this PvE encounter incredibly difficult as it boots you to the guards that 1 shot you, or if you aren't all right on top of him you get insta nuked regardless, no where rly to stand.


Lets say you beat this incredibly hard boss, now you must hope you get 3 gold bags provided for 48 players. Worse yet, there are exploits so the same group of people can win a bag...every...single...time. But ok man, you beat that boss. Stage 1 of 3 stages. You somehow make it to stage 2. You have to do more PvE with even harder, and significantly buggier bosses. Now say you are a solid 48 man and do everything needed. stage 3...the relic...but wait. You can't get to it because the other instances are failing. No 3rd stage for you...EVER. Hey, miracles happen though. You do it, your realm gets to stage 3. You are excited, you want that relic bad! No relic though, just more PvE and a king fight that will put you to sleep. Still...no enemies.


Now imagine you are being attacked on this awesome relic raid. They hit stage 2. You no longer can reach camelot...for 6 hours. Now imagine the other "big cities" in SI and such are also closed off to you. You say screw it, you'll do ToA. You can't though...because ToA is tied to your city. No PvE there. You did it though, you lasted through the 6 hours of /yawn as your city was burnt to a crisp. Screw it, you are gonna do ToA damn it! You need to! You can't though, because your city is 1 out of 5 stars due to the realm destroying your city. ToA is STILL closed off and you have to do a crap ton of PvE just to unlock it again. Finally, you unlock ToA, everyone is psyched and there are ML10 raids ready and rockin. Your relic is back under siege, no ToA. Rinse. Wash. Repeat.


This is what they did in WAR. Imagine what would have happened if even a 1/4 of this made its way to DAoC. It is sad to say but DAoC was saved by being left behind.

 

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I remember when War went live (My sorc was.. Dark Spec I think… the one where I beat my cane on the ground and he’d pbae and build up energy and I’d have to get rid of it). Anyways, we’d take a keep.. and all that’s left was the Lord and some of his friends.. and he would be immune to any damage or we’d beat him to near death.. then he’d run back to the center and reset lol then return wiping us out. Happened SOOOO MUCH we were so pissed lol. I think that was when we cancelled the first round.

 

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Don't even bring up forts man. I am a very relaxed player. If I get frustrated I either make jokes, purposely mess around for the lawlz or do something else. I can't stand angry gamers.


Forts in WAR were the first, and only time i might add, where I literally picked something up (i think it was an empty cup) and threw it as hard as I could against a wall hahahahaha.


Forts were what made my guild of 58 people quit. 3 of us remained. To this day, I ask my roomie who was our GM and a Warhammer fanatic/GM. He says the same thing. No. I don't care what they do. I don't care that there aren't forts anymore. It ruined the game for me. It ruined a game I have been waiting for for years. It turned countless people off of Warhammer when it should have turned them on to it. I will never, no matter what they do, touch that game again.


This is a guy who played WoW for 2 years, even though he hated every minute of it, because his friends played it. Pretty bold statement if he can bring himself to play a game he hated

 

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You may be right Cydoc.

I guess the real statement should be they should have spend 1/4 of the money on DAOC and kept Matt Firor around to spend it.

 

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10000000000000000000000000000% agree with you there buddy. I have been keeping my eye on Zenimax Online simply because Matt Firor is in charge of it. Granted they are being super secretive about their project :\


I have been emailing them once a week since Josh Drescher (one of the lead guys from Mythic who was in charge of WAR and a really smart, funny and talented guy) got laid off telling them to hire him.


Josh + Matt would make for one hell of a freaking game. If anyone would get me hooked on a PvE MMO (most people think they're making an elder scrolls MMO) it'd be these guys.


BTW where have you been GP?! I haven't seen you around.

 

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Interesting. I would believe it only because of the amount of the voice over size for sw mmo, I mean it is bioware afterall .

Most of it reads like fanboi rant thought.

 

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