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robbie1687  1 star
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Registered: 2003-8-1 09:52:02
Silver_Songman posted:

EULA 4:A

You may not use any of your own or third-party software to modify the Game Content to change Game play.



Whenever you see capitalized words in a legal document (in this case, "Game Content", it means that the words have a special meaning which was defined earlier in the document. Therefore we can look earlier in the EUALA and find the definition of "Game Content." Here's the definition from EUALA 2.A:


"ou acknowledge and agree that Mythic is the sole and exclusive owner of the System, and that Mythic or its suppliers are the sole and exclusive owner(s) of all right, title and interest (including, without limitation, all intellectual property rights), code, programs, routines, subroutines, objects, files, data, characters (including all items, currency, objects and attributes comprising or associated with a character and an Account), and information uploaded to, downloaded from, and accessible through the System, including, without limitation, graphics, sound effects, music, animation-style video and text, some of which may be provided to Mythic under license from independent content providers (collectively, "Game Content"."


These programs don't modify those things.


If you disagree, would you please tell me which thing on that list is modified by these four programs?


As you make your choice, please note that this is a list of things that Mythic owns. Everything on that list is property. If a thing can't be owned -- if it can't be property -- it can't be on that list.


(And by the way, there's a second reason why this rule doesn't apply. These programs don't change game play. Game play means things that happen inside the game. But let's look at one issue at a time.)

 

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angryranger  2 stars
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ArkadyTepes  3 stars
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angryranger posted:

xDeath-n-Decayx posted:

angryranger posted:

LOL. That people still need to multibox to enjoy this game is hilarious.



Didn't ask for any assholes with their 2 cents to troll my thread. I did not say I need this to enjoy the game, I am already enjoying it. I want to enjoy it more conveniently.

To the above posters with intellectual information, I thank you.



lol at morons who accept the need to buy multiple accounts.



where did he say he NEEDED multiple accounts?

i've played between 3-6 accounts in every MMO i've played, ever sense text based MUDS... not because the games require them.. but because i get bored doing 1 task, i need the extra accounts/actions to keep myself busy and entertained...

currently playing eve online with 5 accounts, not because the game requires multiple accounts, infact everything i can do, i can do with just 1 account... but i like the extra challenge of flying 5 spaceships at once.

 

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xDeath-n-Decayx  1 star
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So I have been using LottaCam's for the last few days.. Although I am moderately satisfied with it. I get alot of Render Creation Failed when logging in the 3rd account, or my resoultion gets blown up to 800 x 600 randomly when logging in. I am playing in windowed mode, as 1600 x 900, and I am running a 21" flatscreen LCD. I did also run into this same problem while only using 2 clients. Is there a fix for this? Also, I have to play the guessing game (when I actually get the 3 accounts up & running) of which one to click on to find out which account it is. Is there anything that shows a sort of square chart, of what client is running? I used a program when I used to play wow, that when using 3+ accounts, it would show the main account in fullscreen, and the alternative accounts in a square in a corner of the screen, that were clickable to pull into fullscreen, as well as being able to cast spells from those windows.

 

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robbie1687  1 star
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xDeath-n-Decayx posted:

So I have been using LottaCam's for the last few days.. Although I am moderately satisfied with it.



LottaCam does only one thing, and from what you say, it's doing that one thing perfectly. Yet you say you are "moderately" satisfied. This is because you are expecting it to do things that it doesn't do. The only thing it does is allow more than two copies of DAOC to be launched by the operating system. Launch means "start running." It doesn't mean "make DAOC work properly after it starts running." Whether DAOC works properly after it starts has nothing to do with LottaCam. LottaCam has no involvement of any kind in DAOC's operation except for allowing it to be launched by the operating system.


xDeath-n-Decayx posted:

I get alot of Render Creation Failed when logging in the 3rd account, or my resoultion gets blown up to 800 x 600 randomly when logging in.



That has nothing to do with LottaCam. That's an issue involving one or more of the following: your video card, its drivers, DirectX, and DAOC. LottaCam is not involved with any of those things. All it does is allow the operating system to launch (start) more than two copies of DAOC.


By the way, computers rarely do things randomly. I suspect that the DAOC client may be setting itself to a small window size deliberately because there isn't enough video ram for the size you set.


xDeath-n-Decayx posted:

Is there a fix for this [renderer creation failed]?



This is Mythic's error message, not a documented system error message, so they are the only ones who know what it really means. Here's their advice:


http://support.darkageofcamelot.com/kb/article.php?id=229


In addition to Mythic's suggestions, you also might try setting DAOC's window size to the smallest possible size (resolution) so DAOC uses the least amount of video ram.


xDeath-n-Decayx posted:

Also, I have to play the guessing game (when I actually get the 3 accounts up & running) of which one to click on to find out which account it is. Is there anything that shows a sort of square chart, of what client is running? I used a program when I used to play wow, that when using 3+ accounts, it would show the main account in fullscreen, and the alternative accounts in a square in a corner of the screen, that were clickable to pull into fullscreen, as well as being able to cast spells from those windows.



I wrote one of those programs. The program is perfectly legal with WoW. However Mythic decided about a year ago that the program is illegal in DAOC, and the program doesn't perform this particular function with DAOC anyway.


Another one of my programs, Mojo, displays an icon in its own window for each of your characters. When the character is running, an "R" is displayed on the character's icon. If you double-click a character icon, that instance of DAOC will rise to the foreground. This isn't what you are asking for, but it does fit your description of "shows...what client is running." Mojo doesn't break any DAOC rules. You can download Mojo here:


Mojo

 

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ArkadyTepes  3 stars
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xDeath-n-Decayx posted:

So I have been using LottaCam's for the last few days.. Although I am moderately satisfied with it. I get alot of Render Creation Failed when logging in the 3rd account, or my resoultion gets blown up to 800 x 600 randomly when logging in. I am playing in windowed mode, as 1600 x 900, and I am running a 21" flatscreen LCD. I did also run into this same problem while only using 2 clients. Is there a fix for this? Also, I have to play the guessing game (when I actually get the 3 accounts up & running) of which one to click on to find out which account it is. Is there anything that shows a sort of square chart, of what client is running? I used a program when I used to play wow, that when using 3+ accounts, it would show the main account in fullscreen, and the alternative accounts in a square in a corner of the screen, that were clickable to pull into fullscreen, as well as being able to cast spells from those windows.



camelot being the wonderfuly coded program its always been.... has weird errors..

like, many years ago.. during SI... i kept getting render creation errors when trying to load camelot on a newly formatted machine...

for the life of my i couldnt figure out the problem, i went through everything over and over again... couldnt get it to work.

then i noticed the system date was set for 1974 .... fixed that.. and camelot loaded fine...

the rest of your problems simple sound like your computer isnt capable of running 3 clients at once.

 

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jojobonojo  1 star
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I've used lottacam in the past and didn't have those graphical issues. Maybe try reducing the resolution on the alt accounts a bit?

 

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robbie1687  1 star
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ArkadyTepes posted:

i kept getting render creation errors...then i noticed the system date was set for 1974 .... fixed that.. and camelot loaded fine...



This is a great example of something that people tend not to understand. There isn't necessarily any connection between what an error message says and the conditions that trigger it. Or the error message may describe the last link in a chain of events, when what the user needs to know is the first link.

 

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ArkadyTepes  3 stars
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robbie1687 posted:

ArkadyTepes posted:

i kept getting render creation errors...then i noticed the system date was set for 1974 .... fixed that.. and camelot loaded fine...


This is a great example of something that people tend not to understand. There isn't necessarily any connection between what an error message says and the conditions that trigger it. Or the error message may describe the last link in a chain of events, when what the user needs to know is the first link.



its also a good example of how anything could cause problems with software, even tiny things completely unrelated to that software...

 

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Idealistgamer  2 stars
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Seriously, people need to know that you can have a blast in DAOC without needing to Multi-Box.

 

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