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xDeath-n-Decayx posted:
Kedali-Pellinor posted:
If there were no skill in DAoC, everyone would play on an equal level.
And they do. Everyone and anyone is capable of getting ANYTHIING anyone else has, and using it the same way. Therefore, no skill is involved. You lose.
Any activity requires skill. This includes daoc. You are wrong. One of the worst arguments I have ever seen constructed.
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Nabdya Posts: 34
Registered: 2006-12-4 22:15:47
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Windwalkr posted:
This is all a bit too easy to prove/disprove, and since you're making the claim the burden of proof is on you to show that the Cleric RR5 procs more then the intended 50% proc rate.
Doing anything less and playing theory-craft & "balance by popularism" instead, amounts to a silly "Nerf X!" cry without a leg to stand on. 
Anyone whose played a RR5+ Cleric knows it's working as intended, with a 50% proc rate. In fact it was beefed up twice in the past to get to that 50%, so I'm thinking it's unlikely we're going to see a significant change to that now. (Especially not now that Druids & Healers RR5s were boosted with the last patch.)
Oh you mean the Healer's RR5 ability that gives them a chance to cheat death, be healed for a random ammount (which is usually 5% if you're lucky), only to be killed anyways?
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Devaster-S- posted:
xDeath-n-Decayx posted:
Kedali-Pellinor posted:
If there were no skill in DAoC, everyone would play on an equal level.
And they do. Everyone and anyone is capable of getting ANYTHIING anyone else has, and using it the same way. Therefore, no skill is involved. You lose.
Any activity requires skill. This includes daoc. You are wrong. One of the worst arguments I have ever seen constructed.
Prove to me how smashing buttons on your keyboard requires skills? Hellen Keller could 1v1 any of you, lol.
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Windwalkr  Title: Camelot Vault Staff
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
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Nabdya posted:
Oh you mean the Healer's RR5 ability that gives them a chance to cheat death, be healed for a random ammount (which is usually 5% if you're lucky), only to be killed anyways?
Yes exactly that one. How typical and ordinary of you to downplay everything in your realm, and over-hype everything in the other realm while conveniently forgetting about every other facet of the classes in question. 
You know that Healers also have a powerful Pac line with 4 forms of INSTANT ranged CC right?  (Not to mention FZ & PS)
Clerics in turn have access only to a very weak PBAE Mess & Snare in an otherwise exceptionally useless line.
Maybe now you can better understand why class balance requires a holistic PoV, but quite frankly I doubt it... 
The Cleric RR5 has been around for a long time in it's current form, and I'm certain there is about 0.0% chance that it will see a nerf anytime soon.
I realize life as a stealth zergling gets boring and you have to entertain yourself on VN to compensate, but really...try a little harder.
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Nabdya Posts: 34
Registered: 2006-12-4 22:15:47
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Wow lol, how typical of you to downplay your realm, I believe everything you're saying to the contrary...
The healer instas from the Pac line you're referring to is as equally weak as your pbae mezz/snare (gets resisted alot)...
Regardless of your opinionated view of me, (Really... do we have to result to name-calling and mudslinging here, if I were to say anything like that to you, I am sure you would exercise your VN power, am I right?) I do try to have an unbiased over-all view on things...
Healer's pathetic rr5 has been around just as long as your Clerics (so I dont see your point there)...
Do I really need to bring up all the other things that make your statements fall on deaf ears, such as the realm of Albion having 1 more stealth class than the rest of us?
Go back to your "omnipotent" Throne and continue your campaign to ruin this game, keeping it all about the realm of Albion...
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1/1/00 12:00am
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Healer RR5 is a bonus when you add in FZ and PS from ML sojourner line. I think most clerics would give anything to have sojourner line.
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xxZeddxx Posts: 5
Registered: 2009-6-4 12:03:37
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1/1/00 12:00am
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kuide posted:
Mid dominates through Skill and not OP classes
We should even up the classes..
You are right, clerics should get insta ae mez, insta ae stun, castable mez and stun without a reuse timer, phase shift and forceful zephyr.
sound fair?
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-Enkill- Posts: 11
Registered: 2005-8-18 20:53:03
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Mooshaka posted:
kuide posted:
Mid dominates through Skill and not OP classes
We should even up the classes..
skald, valk, BDs, and warlocks are all in albion I guess
Savage, Healer. All fine and dandy I suppose.
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b0xy  Posts: 314
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If by skill you mean reflexes and common sense, then yes, DAoC requires a lot of skill.
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