VaultNetwork.netVault Network Boards
Author Topic: Astral gear/items [Locked]
PowPowParn  2 stars
Posts: 374
Registered: 2005-6-12 19:11:48
copypasta from another thread!

i wouldnt mind something like mixing both pve and pvp to gain top end items.

what if you added new craftable loot like they did with dragonslayer.

you do a chain a quests to gain the knowlege to make these new items. then you have to do some farming of materials like with certain pots and make the toa mats for leggys part of it also, i got like 100 vials of water just sitting there because i have no use for them <.<

so you make this thing, finnally get a MP than what?

you get told theres a quest to furthur enhance the thing! shnazy~

so you run out to nf where if you get 10 solo kills or 25deathblows or 100 kills you can convert MP item X into its ml10 equilivient~ that way zergers cant cry that its to hard to get solo kills or whatever

the quest will start once you hold an mp item of these, so you can xfer or buy them off housing. this will drive down ml10 loot prices and make crafters some cash, without literally just farming glass or scales while afk and getting shit for free basiclly~


the quest chain can be as long as the old dragonslayer quests also so people can start up bgs and what not like the (not too) old days~


so baiscly, only people with master crafters would have an edge in the quest over someone who doesnt. but even if you dont have a lgm whatever, im sure you know someone or someone in your guild can hook it up. or hell you can make your own. i got lgm on all crafts but seige in 1 weekend on 3 different toons <.<

 

-----signature-----
(/ '-'/ From the windowwwww
('-' ) To the wall!!
(-(-(-(-(-(-( - . - )-)-)-)-)-)-) (^O^)/
Chilliconcarvy  1 star
Posts: 92
Registered: 2008-8-2 03:23:46
Too many freeloading whingers who cant be arsed to work to acquire their gear trying to impose their own misguided 'RvR MUST be on an even playing field' mentality.

The game needs rare/top items that only a few have access to - it's a status symbol and something to aspire to and work towards obtaining. Otherwise you may as well give everyone insta-50, free perfect temped gear and equalize all character skills across the 3 realms and then it wouldn't be the same game.

But I agree on preventing or better still, penalizing, loot jackers.
SharpAnubis462  1 star
Posts: 50
Registered: 2008-11-5 18:10:52
Chilliconcarvy posted:

The game needs rare/top items that only a few have access to - it's a status symbol and something to aspire to and work towards obtaining. Otherwise you may as well give everyone insta-50, free perfect temped gear and equalize all character skills across the 3 realms and then it wouldn't be the same game.



Why does everyone insist on this same terrible argument whenever someone suggests something they don't like? "our idea is so bad, and I'm going to show you how by bringing up entirely different things that you never even mentioned and then act like that debunks your argument. Ha, I win!"

DAoC hasn't "been the same game" in a long time. Even if gear were made easy to get RvR still wouldn't be an even playingfield and high RR would still be a "status symbol."
Corfel  3 stars
Posts: 510
Registered: 2008-4-3 12:02:45
Chilliconcarvy posted:

Too many freeloading whingers who cant be arsed to work to acquire their gear trying to impose their own misguided 'RvR MUST be on an even playing field' mentality.

The game needs rare/top items that only a few have access to - it's a status symbol and something to aspire to and work towards obtaining. Otherwise you may as well give everyone insta-50, free perfect temped gear and equalize all character skills across the 3 realms and then it wouldn't be the same game.

But I agree on preventing or better still, penalizing, loot jackers.



I disagree with you and I think you've missed my point

If the items were only obtained by people farming them then fine.

I would happily try to acquire astral weapons if I felt I wasn't going to be raped at the end of the raid and get nothing.

The "Status Symbols" you see running around are majority the players who've dropped RL money on plat and buying weapons that people have jacked.

That is not the sort of "Status Symbol" I would like to be

(I'm not saying this is 100% of the players with Astral gear)

 

-----signature-----
Coreline 9l1 Ranger & Corlina 11l1 NS
Currently ~ Corella ~ 3l3 Bard
Ranger vid ~ http://tinyurl.com/Coreline
NS Vids ~ http://tinyurl.com/CorlinaVids
ArkadyTepes  3 stars
Posts: 510
Registered: 2004-1-10 11:08:57
simple solution to loot jackers...

RUN A RAID YOURSELF...

set up a bg, set up a trusted person as treasurer (maybe yourself) then get people to go kill the monsters...

when i still played the game, money was rediculously easy to get, maxing out a few characters in plat was trivial... and that was 5 years ago i'm sure its only gotten easier sense then...

wich is why prices are so damned high.. because its so easy to pharm cash and theres realy nothing taking the cash out of the game, so it just inflates upwards constantly

 

-----signature-----
-=no pity for the majority=-
Lakobaath  1 star
Title: Camelot Vault Staff
Official CV Gopher

Posts: 143
Registered: 2008-4-3 08:39:37
it hasn't gotten as easy as you think. Setting up an ml10 raid and getting the sufficient people to get behind you when you haven't ever ran a raid is nearly impossible because nobody trusts you, so why should they be in a bg with you? Getting on an ml10 raid that will eventually be ganked at the end? Almost every night. There are some good ml10 leaders. There are also some awful ones that wouldn't steal, but, their rules and attitudes are so far off from trying to wing the rest of the raid without leaving.

 

-----signature-----
Currently Playing: Lakko 8L8 Ranger, 4L2 Eld, RR7L0 Bard, RR2L5 Hero, RR4L2 Animist.
Most Lako names are me. Mostly stealth zerging
~Stealth Zerging near you~
Docmandu  1 star
Posts: 240
Registered: 2005-7-12 00:54:17
When you feel bad about DAoC gear... just think how much better the system in daoc is versus other games... ie we don't have crap like:

"Rank 1/2 sets provide 323 total Valor, for 26.9% damage reduction and 45.4% critical bonus damage reduction."
..
"Rank 5/6 sets provide 480 total Valor, for 40% damage reduction and 50% critical bonus damage reduction"


Imagine ML10 gear giving you a damage reduction of 13.1% versus other people without ML10 gear... now THAT would be a reason to rant about!
ArkadyTepes  3 stars
Posts: 510
Registered: 2004-1-10 11:08:57
Lakobaath posted:

it hasn't gotten as easy as you think. Setting up an ml10 raid and getting the sufficient people to get behind you when you haven't ever ran a raid is nearly impossible because nobody trusts you, so why should they be in a bg with you? Getting on an ml10 raid that will eventually be ganked at the end? Almost every night. There are some good ml10 leaders. There are also some awful ones that wouldn't steal, but, their rules and attitudes are so far off from trying to wing the rest of the raid without leaving.



sufficient people??

... used to do ml10 with just 8 people... soooooo even if it hasnt gotten any easier... still if you cant get 8 people to work with you... then you fail at selecting guilds/alliances to be part of...

this is a MMO based around community.. if you purposely alienate yourself away from that community by not joining decently sized guilds/alliances.. then suffer your own choices.

but the getting easier i was actualy refering to in my previous post.. was making money itself... to buy the weapons from other players..

i used to easily be able to pull 15 plat an hr... without realy working hard... so if the weapons are outragiously priced at 300plat ... thats only 20 hrs play time to get the coin together... wich isnt realy hard at all

anyone who thinks it is needs to move on to a difrent genre of video game because i dont know of any MMO that doesnt have grinds and time sinks to get the high end gear

 

-----signature-----
-=no pity for the majority=-
IronFinisher
Posts: 29
Registered: 2006-1-7 11:48:59
WTS Conflags on mid 260 plat!

 

-----signature-----
Finisher/aka Jim/CV Skald Fastforword/cleric Phinishers/druid Akajimbo
http://gimpchimp.etilader.com/s.php?u=Finisher
JensenIntersepter
Posts: 18
Registered: 2007-1-6 15:18:53
Update the High lord/Legion DF loot tables to be comparable with ML10. An additional dungeon dropping high end gear will increase the items on the market, decreasing the prices.

VaultNetwork.net is an independently operated community forum and is not affiliated with, endorsed by, or technically based on IGN, GameSpy, FilePlanet, GameStats, or the former IGN/GameSpy Vault Network.
References to VaultNetwork.net mean this site/domain. VNBoards-style presentation is a visual homage only. By using this site, you agree to the forum rules.