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The most obvious source for the loss of Realm Pride is simply that its possible to play on all 3 realms on a server. When it took a second account (devoted entirely to that server) to spy, it was harder. People still did it, but they were often identified and shunned. You had pride in your realm because you spent all your time there.

The early RvR game was considerably different - because Mythic hadn't begun to tailor the game to RvR performance and still spent time on PvE development. The current game is focused on RvR - and PvE has been minimized, thus losing the vast majority of players who were interested in PvE (only a small percentage of most MMO players engage in PvP play on a regular or exclusive basis, disinherit the PvE players and your population drops). What ruined PvP the most in this game in my opinion was the addition of Realm Points and then the addition of Realm Abilities. When we lacked both, people fought members of other realms because they were enemies, period. Now everyone is out there to score the highest RPs so they can gain the uber RAs to give them an advantage in gaining more RPs etc, rinse and repeat. It means the members of a realm are working at cross purposes to each other much of the time. When the game came out and we began to RvR, no one cared about an add in a fight because it meant nothing to most people to get some help. That was before the rise of the soloers, the people who show up to the game with 2 or more buffbot accounts, who duel against their own characters in other realms to boost their RPs faster, etc etc. The people for whom waving their epeen is the most important thing in their lives seemingly. The same people who ragequit if defeated etc.

NF is also a huge factor. It doesn't encourage RvR of the same sort at all. In the old days when the Albs boiled over the border into Midgard, they would take a series of keeps as they progressed - or stealth by them on their way to the Relic keeps, and we had to spread out to find and confront them. Having your forces out of position meant losing the strategic fight in a lot of cases. Now with the ability to teleport back and forth far easier, this is much less of a factor. In the old days defending a keep was harder because there were less tools to do it with. Now its a much slower process involving more steps, with more tools to both attack and defend.

 

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realm pride died, long before clustering...

switching realms mid fight, spying, or just playing the other realms wasnt the death of realm pride, because it was already dead before that point...

those things have to do with realm LOYALTY... not pride...

when i still played, i played all 3 realms on the same cluster, and i switched often... but when i was on hibernia, i fought for hibernia only, i didnt spy, or change sides because one was loosing or winning... i stuck with it and did my best for the realm and my realm mates... and same when i was on mid or alb...

realm pride is supporting your fellow players reguardless of the options available to backstab them.


there were selfish players out for just themselves and didnt give 2 shits about the realm, even before it was an option to play the other realms on the same server...

 

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Mythic doesn't really even exist anymore, the people who worked on DAoC don't really even exist anymore; they're either working on SWTOR or were let go. There can't be many people left working on DAoC so asking them to "fix" anything in this game is not going to happen, period. Blame EA, piece of s#$%t company.

game isnt even that bad

 

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