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Nabdya Posts: 34
Registered: 2006-12-4 22:15:47
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
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Belkiolle posted:
Meddyck24 posted:
My revamp of Purge would look like this:
Purge 1 - 10 minutes, instant cast
Purge 2 - 7 1/2 minutes, instant cast, 10% immunity timer increase
Purge 3 - 5 minutes, instant cast, 25% immunity timer increase
Purge 4 - 3 minutes, instant cast, 50% immunity timer increase
Purge 5 - 2 minutes, instant cast, 100% immunity timer increase
IOW with Purge 5, you'd get 2 minutes immunity when you purged mezz instead of the usual 1 minute.
I like this idea but I think Purge 3-5 should all have a 5 minute timer. 2 and 3 minutes are just way to short a reuse. Purge 5 would basically make you immune to CC.
Oh you mean like the RA, Charge with the 1 min. reuse timer? lol w/CC immunity to boot!
Meddyck24 posted:My revamp of Purge would look like this:
Purge 1 - 10 minutes, instant cast
Purge 2 - 7 1/2 minutes, instant cast, 10% immunity timer increase
Purge 3 - 5 minutes, instant cast, 25% immunity timer increase
Purge 4 - 3 minutes, instant cast, 50% immunity timer increase
Purge 5 - 2 minutes, instant cast, 100% immunity timer increase
IOW with Purge 5, you'd get 2 minutes immunity when you purged mezz instead of the usual 1 minute.
Meddyck24 for Pres. !!
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DarkPCK  Title: Got to go house is on fire.
Posts: 457
Registered: 2003-12-14 12:38:01
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
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DoorknobMLF posted:
I'm just saying that Purge 2,3, and 4 seem to be not as good of a tradeoff as Purge 1 or 5. So adjusting the Reuse Timers could make those middle levels of the RA a little more attractive while giving more of a benefit for more realm skill points invested. And since everyone uses Purge and its a big aspect of all RvR I don't think this would be much of a problem. It wouldn't even affect RvR in regards to crowd control, it would just allow some people to use a slightly lower level of Purge with less of a RUT, and therefore they can think about investing a few more points into some other realm abilities.
It sets a precedent for various realm abilities where there's no great return on investment for various levels, i.e. BA, BOF, MOC, to name a few. It also would affect RvR more than you think as CC would not stick as often and when they aren't CCed, they would be more powerful passively with either more RSPs spent on different abilities that people would not otherwise be able to get (mostly with people that have the current Purge3 who would likely drop to Purge2 with your proposal).
DoorknobMLF posted:
Well that being said, I doubt Mythic will bother to change anything that already works fairly well if they don't change things that are obviously messed up. I just thought they could have done Purge a little better in 1.108.
They treated Purge like every other RA that was changed by just adding mean points between levels (with some rounding). In that respect, they weren't looking to "[do to] Purge a little better" or change any to increase value at any level in 1.108.
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Galaniel  Posts: 95
Registered: 2002-11-11 03:52:27
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
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poenadare posted:
Purge should be free to all classes and the timers should be tied to your RR.
There should be a BIG glowing graphic that makes it painfully obvious that you hit Purge.
Yes dumb down the already dumbed down version of this game.
If you cant tell when someone purges now you need to quit the game.
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poenadare Posts: 381
Registered: 2001-11-5 08:09:53
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1/1/00 12:00am
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Galaniel posted:
Yes dumb down the already dumbed down version of this game.
If you cant tell when someone purges now you need to quit the game.
Such empathy.
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
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also he said painfully obvious, not easily noticeable, there is a difference, and you just enjoy making 'L2P' comments. It really doesn't matter how obvious it is when someone purges, it could still be more painfully obvious.
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poenadare Posts: 381
Registered: 2001-11-5 08:09:53
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
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Bad vision, bad lag, bad monitor. I miss lots of stuff.
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Jim_Digriz Posts: 119
Registered: 2001-11-10 07:09:49
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
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Personally, I'd rather see the effects left the same as they are now, but have the ability removed from the RA options and rather given as a free ability to all classes at set levels, ie
Purge 1 - free ability at level 30
Purge 2 - free upgrade at level 35
Purge 3 - free upgrade at level 40
Purge 4 - free upgrade at level 45
Purge 5 - free upgrade at level 50
I doubt anyone would seriously complain about 30 exta points to spend elsewhere, and it would allow new players to feel a bit more competative with all the high realm rankers out there now.
Also not having to tie up so many points with such a necessary ability would allow players to be a little bit more creative in how they spend their RAs.
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PowPowParn Posts: 374
Registered: 2005-6-12 19:11:48
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
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Purge Realm Ability |
they left long wind alone, i thought hey should of left purge alone as as well was fine as is.
purge should not be a mashable ability, should be used as an shithitthefan situation.
wait for demez call out pre heals if slammed ect if in a group.
and as stated many times before, the game isn't balanced around solo play. ive never run more than purge 2(now 3?) on my solo toons and ran purge 5 on my 8v8 casters when i could afford it. its a luxury~
although i wouldn't mind the RUT timers being decreased as you progress in the line like was stated, going lower than 5 mins or doing that 100$ addition to immune timer is way over kill. re CC will win you a lot of fights.
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andynNIN Posts: 62
Registered: 2004-9-27 21:50:26
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
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free moc on clerics too thanks.
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Vyxar Title: Arbiter Elegantiarum
Posts: 329
Registered: 2002-3-13 04:54:08
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
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Purge Realm Ability |
DoorknobMLF posted:
Ok, here are my thoughts. Purge is a very important aspect to any class, but I find that for lower RR characters you have to sacrifice too much damage and other RA's to get a decent level of Purge.
I'm not so opposed to the change as I am this rationale. If you give the low RR everything the high RR has then what was the point of having the level structure in place. It's not supposed to be balanced when characters of different levels/ranks fight each other. The higher one should have advantages, sometimes huge ones.
DoorknobMLF posted:
I also feel that Purge 2 and 3 are not quite worth investing in, you may as well stay at 1 or go higher.
I'm more sympathetic to this view(partly because of purging stun vs longer duration effects) but it does open up a can of worms because there are many active RAs that have little or no value in some/most of the tiers.
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