You're mistaken with your points. I played every day (waaay too many hours) and never heard mythic say they had a detection system in the works, they never said they could detect, they never sent warnings to players (I would have gotten one if they did), they never announced another warning (especially to players), and they banned the large majority the day after the radar program had an update (it's been a while, but seems like you had to update a service pack for the radar, and the next day 1000's ish were banned). They could track macro crafters if they didn't respond to pm's, they could catch los exploiters because they could see what they were doing and a few other exploits that they would actually send warnings for, but they NEVER sent a warning for radar, which tells me they couldn't detect it until something changed with Autokiller? was it? Then they apparently got so excited that they could actually detect it that they dropped the ban stick on everybody, with no warning. I don't know anybody that received a warning prior to ban.

 

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then you just didnt pay attention, they warned people multiple times on these very forums, and the camelot herald...

and anyone who they "caught" that got a personal warning, it was via email to the email address on file with the account...

and mythic's detection was because they changed the way the data stream for daoc worked, they encrypted it so inline packet sniffing radars stopped working, and you had to use one that hooked into the clients memory as the client was active, well when ever a program hooked into the memory, it sent a red flag up for mythic to look into why.

 

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Why do you need multiple (or even one) warnings for something that is obviously against the ToS? Banning the cheaters was one of the few things Mythic did right (albeit they were way too slow).

 

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I think it's time for amnesty - with caveats:

To unban an account you must already have another active account with at least 4 level 50s or at least one RR5+ character. In return for unbanning Mythic gets to randomly delete one of your level 50s on the active account.

Also, you have to purchase a one year subscription for the previously banned account.

 

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So, people only had fun with game cause they cheated and had big unfair advantage. Who says they'd come back.

L L cheaters

 

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let them come back, but they have to have all RR stripped and start as a RR1. If the cheat program wasn't a factor in them playing then it won't be again.

 

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Nonsense; the warnings came in the form of a one week suspension, which began on the first day New Frontiers was released.





I am not a computer expert, but doubt it would be difficult to parse logs on the server to see if an account is sending a specific command every X,XX sec (+/- 0,XXXX to account for latency) intervals. A computer program could easily bring such accounts to the attention to a human CSR, who could then teleport the offending character to a location away from the forge, lathe, or alchemy table. There is no need in verifying whether or not the player responds to tells, as having them disabled in the current window is a valid excuse for not responding to tells. However, attempting to craft 30 swords while in the middle of a lake is is inexcusable.

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Unban them or not, it doesn't matter, most people will have moved on with their lives


Yes, the radar ban did reduce the rvr population, I'm not saying it was the right or wrong decision, but I doubt there is much they can do to fix that.


Also, I thought radar was never given suspensions, it was always an insta perma ban. I've known people who have been caught with it thoughout just about every cycle of the game and were never given suspensions, just straight to ban.

 

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You cant disable CSR Messaging and it appears in all chat windows, so there is no excuse for not responding.

 

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From MJ(google)

"Also, it’s with great happiness that we declare this round to be the last of the second chances. At one point, the perception had been expressed on the part of some of our players that one had to have radar to be competitive. As the steady decline in the number of radar users has shown, the reality is that this is no longer an issue. What IS an issue now is the perception that “lots of other people” cheat, although the data simply doesn’t support that perception. Therefore, since there shouldn’t be anyone left who believes that they just “have to have radar,” we now proudly return to the original policy of “one strike, you’re out.”

 

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