valmar_kw posted:

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Posted this on Ywain a while back:

1) Create a free-trial account system that allows users to play up to level 24.

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valmar_kw posted:

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2) Implement classic-esque buff range caps. Put in NPC buffers into BGs - very, very few new players would pay 30 bucks a month to play this game. I just hate running multiple clients to play a freaking game, and for those coming from another MMO, they will too. Possibly even put in two buffers for each realm (ie - Shaman buffer, Healer buffer).

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valmar_kw posted:

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3) Make those new EA Game cards apply to DAoC subscriptions. I know a lot of people that use the WoW cards they buy at the store instead of paying with CC. EDIT: These do apply to DAoC subs, but you have to go to the EA Game Store. They need to make it applicable in the account management area on Mythic's website.

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valmar_kw posted:

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4) Do this stuff: http://img201.imageshack.us/f/featuresi.jpg/

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valmar_kw posted:

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5) Grant BPs for battleground kills - this will allow for people to gear a bit easier.

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valmar_kw posted:

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6) Allow for BPs/Glass/Scales to buy all higher level content, such as ML10, Dragon, ToA, etc.

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valmar_kw posted:

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7) Add mail system and revamp auction system - make this similar to Warhammer, WoW, Rift, etc. Sucks that if I want to sell something, I either have to constantly spam or buy a house.

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valmar_kw posted:

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8) Add incentive to play away from bridges/portal keeps - create weekly zone bonuses, lessen RPs/BPs by zone depending on number of people in the zone - unless there is major keep warfare going on. This would mean that if 200 people were in Odin's and no keeps were under attack, RPs would diminish greatly. At some point, RPs could be as low as 50% and BPs could be 0%.

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valmar_kw posted:

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9) Make Darkness Falls open to all realms all the time.

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valmar_kw posted:

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10) Create gamewide battle objectives. For example, a server wide message come up saying that Nottmoor Faste is now neutral, and whichever realm takes it first gets something good. Maybe a 5-10k BP reward depending on contribution. Make all kills grant 2x BPs within a certain radius of the keep.

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valmar_kw posted:

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11) Run Mythic-sponsored events. Maybe have an 8v8 zone where BPs are 2x on Agramon for a 48 hour period for groups of 8 - perhaps change the zone regularly (as stated above).

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valmar_kw posted:

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12) Advertising...

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valmar_kw posted:

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13) Do some of these, and give anyone who has ever had a DAoC account 30 free days to try it. Maybe even reduce sub fees for the first month of renewals.

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UnscrupulousDulu posted:

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Disclaimer: I am not you. This is how I, Dulu, would *fix* Dark Age of Camelot.


If you don't think it needs to be fixed, then skip over this thread.


#1 Problem/Solution:


Population - DAOC's population is down to roughly 2,500 active subscriptions, of which I would bet 400 are bot accounts.


There are 15k to 25k subs. Long ago Sanya mentioned that the typical number of subs is 8 to 10 times peak login numbers.


The quickest fix would be to remove the monthly fee.


Well, how would EA make money then? Simple - they would actually make more money by being a Free-2-Play game, and advertising during load screens, and opening up a cash shop.


It would instantly become the top Free-2-Play game on the market.


Sorry but it would not become that huge. The shards are not huge and they are free. The game is not what most MMO players want. The game has been twisted to cater to only a tiny niche. For the game to grow the game needs to be untwisted.


DAOC would no longer be competing with World of Warcraft, RIFT, Aion, etc. Instead, it would be competing with Runescape, Allods, Runes of Magic...


In a way DAoC is not competing with those games anyway. Many players keep a sub going to any game they find fun. I know many players that have subs going to 3 or 4 different games. In a way the games are competing but they are also not competing so much with each other as they need to just be fun. Unfortunately DAoC tends to annoy players and it is the annoyance factor and the lack of fun factor that keeps players from playing.


Free annoyance is still an annoyance.




Problem #2: User Interface has aged..


I agree totally. First impressions are everything and most new players test out the game using the standard UI.


Problem #4: Darkness Falls has lost its emphasis. Sure, some people still go here to level alts, or do some ganking.. but I'd like to see some of the best loot shifted back to Darkness Falls to provide an incentive to go here.


Agree. One of the magic things about DF is the number of PvE centric players that would RvR just to be able to gain control of DF so they could PvE in DF. DF helped funnel PvE centric players into the frontiers. It was wacko for Mythic to have ignored how important DF is to the game.


Problem #5: The tutorial is horrible. Not only do players learn very little about the game, but its BORING! Horribly boring. I had actually never played the tutorial until a few days ago (I started with the release of SI).


I was trying to get my fiancee to play the game, so we did the tutorial together... and I found myself saying, repeatedly "Don't worry honey.. uhh, this isn't REALLY what the game is like..."


Just delete the tutorial all together, let players start in the old racial starting zones.


You may not like the tutorial but it is necessary for many new players. Also, it is not horrible. I like to hunt up the few noobs that are in the game and help them (it is just something I find fun to do). Mostly, the noobs that I assist in the game do not find the tutorial horrible at all, just the opposite.


One mistake that many make is thinking others look at things the same way they do. There are about 5 different main personality types with many sub types. Each personality type sees the world very differently. What one type finds horribly boring another type will find amusing and another type will find useful and yet another type won’t care one way or the other. I almost guarantee that your fiancée is not the same personality type as you. (Typically, in general, a person is most attracted to a specific but different personality type than they are. It is very rare for two of the same personality types to be compatible or even attracted to each other.)


It is a horrible mistake to say, "Don't worry honey.. uhh. . ." to a new person that is checking out the game. They will like it or not. Constantly making apologies for what 'you' feel is "horrible" about the game, is a mistake (marketing 101).


Problem #6: There needs to be more emphasis on RVR, which means a much faster leveling curve. The crown jewel of DAOC is PVP. Grinding on mobs and doing quests is boring. Let players level up about twice as fast as they currently do.. particularly at the 40-50 range.


Task Dungeons are great XP, but are absolutely horrible. Boring, bland, buggy.. Just delete these from the game and drastically increase XP gained from everywhere else. Maybe put "Task Masters" in every zone, that will reward you for killing certain NPC's over and over.. if you must.




The typical MMO player is PvE centric, not PvP/RvR centric. The game of DAoC has already been twisted to cater to the RvR centric player and catering to the RvR centric is part of what is killing the game. The only way to revive the game is to make the game fun for the typical MMO player and that means fixing the PvE.


As for Task Dungeons, they are one of the worst things ever added to the game. TDs harmed the community aspect of the game.


Problem #7: "Servers" I don't understand the purpose of having the 10 Ywain servers anymore. Is it just for housing purposes? My main complaint is having to "/send stinkynewb-ywain8 hey dude" just to see "That character does not exist!", because he is actually on Ywain9, not Ywain8. Simply allowing us to message people without having to type their server name would be a huge help.



There are some problems with the way Mythic set up the interface and logistics of the 10 servers, and the problems do need to be fixed, but there are two main reasons for having 10 Ywain servers:


Extra housing areas


Many players, from the old servers, had many more than 10 characters to transfer over. Some players had 30 characters from each realm to transfer over to Ywain. Some had 40+++ characters to transfer over from the old servers, and a login server only holds 10 characters. Mythic needed/needs to have the 10 servers to hold all the characters that players needed to transfer over.



Problem #8: "Auctions" Related to problem #7, but this one is such a pain it deserves its own point.. Having to go to the housing area, talk to the merchant and search through that horrible search UI, just to have to teleport to a different server, run to a guys house.. its bad. Not something that should be in a 2011 MMO.


Solution: Remove the +20% cash penalty for buying directly from the merchant, and allow people to buy items from merchants regardless of which server they're on. Also.. improve the auction UI.


There are many problems with housing, the MEs, the CMs, Ywain 1-10, etc. .you have only touched on one problem. Your solution is only a band-aid, it does not fix the problem. Mythic should address and fix the problem.

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JensenIntersepter posted:

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Reasonable points. However, these could only be changed if Mythic had the staff to implement these changes. Sad to say that this is not going to happen. Thanks to Jeff Hickman and his poor Warhammer team, EA will not trust mythic to remake of DAOC.

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Semi4 posted:

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Almost all (99.999%) of the problems with Warhammer and with DAoC rest on the back of MJ.

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poenadare posted:

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If DAoC hadn't been stripped of resources and denied advertising we wouldn't be in this boat

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