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Eithor
Title: DAoC Knight
Midgard Representitive

Posts: 44
Registered: 2004-12-26 14:54:19
DoorknobMLF posted:

daoc is balanced based on a group setting, and i wouldn't want it any other way.



One could argue that DAoC is balanced around realm vs realm vs realm warfare - but thats just a part of the truth it would seem - DAoC could be seen as trying to balance around several different aspects(with different amount of focus regarding each part of the game).

 

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Keypek
Posts: 47
Registered: 2006-9-12 08:45:41
This title alone almost made me resub. And then my dreams were dashed when i clicked.

 

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Zultanious  2 stars
Title: Camelot Vault Staff
Mid Melee Mentor

Posts: 365
Registered: 2003-11-21 16:56:26
Gornnuds posted:

thanes still need love?
wow, i remember these complaints from 5 years ago!

that sucks



Meh mainly just because of the shield nerf and the lack of utility they are not the most wanted class these days. Plus limited survivability.

 

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StanleyM84  1 star
Posts: 109
Registered: 2009-8-17 13:37:49
This is a gross simplification and I know there are differences but thanes need to be the bainshee's of Midgard. A low utility class that is grouped for it's substantial and versatile DPS ability. Right now they are smite clerics with a nerfed stun and no heals.

 

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Vladasa  2 stars
Posts: 305
Registered: 2009-4-1 09:21:12
StanleyM84 posted:

This is a gross simplification and I know there are differences but thanes need to be the bainshee's of Midgard. A low utility class that is grouped for it's substantial and versatile DPS ability. Right now they are smite clerics with a nerfed stun and no heals.



Negative, Thanes are the only true, true hybrid of this game. Clerics can't attack you with their hammer, they can't block 60% and parry 50% of your attacks. Thane is a class that stands on its own; maybe VW's come close to their shenanigans... but they shouldn't be Bainshees... As I said, Thanes are just some hit points and a toy or two away from being perfect... maybe something like a pulsing health buffer? Just to make them a bit harder to kill.

 

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Darlithor
Posts: 21
Registered: 2002-3-26 04:40:07
Just take Thanes off the effing healing WS table and all will be good. As long as they are still on there, they will always be useless.

Patience?? Really? I've been waiting 9 years for thane fixes since they nerfed em into the ground right after beta. And that was only because of the self buffs and the lack of knowledge of fully buffed performance from other classes.

 

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StanleyM84  1 star
Posts: 109
Registered: 2009-8-17 13:37:49
Vladasa posted:

StanleyM84 posted:

This is a gross simplification and I know there are differences but thanes need to be the bainshee's of Midgard. A low utility class that is grouped for it's substantial and versatile DPS ability. Right now they are smite clerics with a nerfed stun and no heals.



Negative, Thanes are the only true, true hybrid of this game. Clerics can't attack you with their hammer, they can't block 60% and parry 50% of your attacks. Thane is a class that stands on its own; maybe VW's come close to their shenanigans... but they shouldn't be Bainshees... As I said, Thanes are just some hit points and a toy or two away from being perfect... maybe something like a pulsing health buffer? Just to make them a bit harder to kill.



I'm trying not to disagree, they do need something.

But their aren't enough spec points, gear utility, or RA points to do ALL those things effectively. It is a hybrid BUT you have to choose. Either gear and spec for defense and maybe get close to 60/50, and lose melee or spell damage OR gear and spec for dos and not have much left for defense. And clerics can melee if you set them up right, not well but you woud be surprised.

 

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Mastara  4 stars
Posts: 1,446
Registered: 2004-12-29 22:52:21
One day they will be worth playing... no not really... they are worthless

 

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StanleyM84  1 star
Posts: 109
Registered: 2009-8-17 13:37:49
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come on! before it's relegated out another patch, then another, then another... like it has been for the last 3 years.


It's time Thane love

 

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Gavster rr10 Healer, Gavenjr rr8 sm, Gavena rr7 valk, Gaviir rr7 vamp
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b0xy  2 stars
Posts: 314
Registered: 2009-3-21 20:06:56
Properly geared caster Thanes have always put up good numbers. They have a 1700 range nuke and a 1650 range insta. They have BG and peeling capabilities. They have a dump for amazing frontload. How are people not making this work? Even the energy debuff is easy to come by; Dark SMs aren't exactly a rarity.

EDIT: Oops I forgot to make my point...

That being said, Thane melee is admittedly fairly weak at the moment, especially after the slam nerf. They're not like reavers, who don't really need slam to win fights. However, I don't think giving them slam is the right idea. They need defense. I'm thinking, new spells in stormcalling. Offensive debuffs or defensive buffs.

 

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