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Mythic please nerf MEZZ [Locked] |
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1/1/00 12:00am
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Mythic please nerf MEZZ |
TropicanaJones posted:
Der_Huhn_Teufel posted:
I think he's right, but I think that stoicism / det should be nerfed accordingly with it. It's pretty stupid that you can be stuck standing still for 40+ seconds with capped resists & resist buffs whenever purge is down.
First....no one should be standing around for 40 seconds, this is true. I validate this fraction of your statement.
Now, I dunno how you play the game, but when I play the game (usually with other people, because it's an MMO) I tend to have purge. Then if I don't have purge, I have someone with me that can demez (and they most def have purge).
If you are standing around for 40+ seconds, it's not the game failing...it's you. Just because YOU the PLAYER didn't prepare yourself for the environment doesn't mean it shouldn't happen.
Perhaps the solution is before you and you just don't know it. I have heard that playing necros is not only lulz, but can't be mezzed or rooted. May I suggest this class to you and your level of ability to play?
I bolded the important parts of my previous quote that you clearly did not read. Demez is great...of course, since it's single target, that's one person at a time you are demezzing, and it assumes the demezzer's purge is up as well.
Some people choose to play classes that don't have stoicism and charge, but that is clearly the mistake we're making. Everyone should just roll light tanks and main tanks, then CC won't be an issue.
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Kahzee  Posts: 246
Registered: 2009-8-26 11:17:54
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
Subject:
Mythic please nerf MEZZ |
TropicanaJones posted:
Der_Huhn_Teufel posted:
I think he's right, but I think that stoicism / det should be nerfed accordingly with it. It's pretty stupid that you can be stuck standing still for 40+ seconds with capped resists & resist buffs whenever purge is down.
First....no one should be standing around for 40 seconds, this is true. I validate this fraction of your statement.
Now, I dunno how you play the game, but when I play the game (usually with other people, because it's an MMO) I tend to have purge. Then if I don't have purge, I have someone with me that can demez (and they most def have purge).
If you are standing around for 40+ seconds, it's not the game failing...it's you. Just because YOU the PLAYER didn't prepare yourself for the environment doesn't mean it shouldn't happen.
Perhaps the solution is before you and you just don't know it. I have heard that playing necros is not only lulz, but can't be mezzed or rooted. May I suggest this class to you and your level of ability to play?
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Vyxar  Title: Arbiter Elegantiarum
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Registered: 2002-3-13 04:54:08
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
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Mythic please nerf MEZZ |
ugo_phelix posted:
Vyxar posted:
Mez should actually be beefed back up closer to the levels it used to be now that there are so many new counters to it.
I do think it's silly though that tanks get stocism/determination when the actual positional effect of CC (not the interrupt) is most needed against them.
And yet everyone forget that tanks don't get det9 for free.
I guess it's silly that casters get moc because interrupts are most needed against them.
Wait so casters get MOC for free? This is shocking news. 
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kancle Posts: 86
Registered: 2011-8-2 03:54:57
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1/1/00 12:00am
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Mythic please nerf MEZZ |
Most good groups will have a main tank that can aoe release mezz/stun/root/cc if needed (warr/hero/arms). You yourself should have purge 3 minimal and many will carry 4/5 at higher rr. If purge is down your demezzer should have higher purge along with moc 1 minimal for demezzing when interrupted. If all of this is down at once and you happen not to have a second demezzer than you probably just got done with fighting another 8man or zerg in which your whole groups timers are likely down and you probably should lose the fight if you don't land your cc first.
You know it is acceptable to lose once in a while too.
It's not rocket science...
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orrime Title: Camelot Vault Staff
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Registered: 2010-4-15 03:34:07
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
Subject:
Mythic please nerf MEZZ |
kancle posted:
Most good groups will have a main tank that can aoe release mezz/stun/root/cc if needed (warr/hero/arms).
I don't remember the last time I grouped a heavy tank, but I would most definitely not consider grouping one unless I'm vamp-heavy.
Appart from this, I don't really see the problem : with purge 5 and many demez in a group, it shouldn't be a problem. If it's still getting in the way of your fun, I'd advise playing a charge/det class. CC is definitely not the problem it used to be back in OF when people were rr3-4 with 30-min purge.
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
Subject:
Mythic please nerf MEZZ |
Der_Huhn_Teufel posted:
TropicanaJones posted:
Der_Huhn_Teufel posted:
I think he's right, but I think that stoicism / det should be nerfed accordingly with it. It's pretty stupid that you can be stuck standing still for 40+ seconds with capped resists & resist buffs whenever purge is down.
First....no one should be standing around for 40 seconds, this is true. I validate this fraction of your statement.
Now, I dunno how you play the game, but when I play the game (usually with other people, because it's an MMO) I tend to have purge. Then if I don't have purge, I have someone with me that can demez (and they most def have purge).
If you are standing around for 40+ seconds, it's not the game failing...it's you. Just because YOU the PLAYER didn't prepare yourself for the environment doesn't mean it shouldn't happen.
Perhaps the solution is before you and you just don't know it. I have heard that playing necros is not only lulz, but can't be mezzed or rooted. May I suggest this class to you and your level of ability to play?
I bolded the important parts of my previous quote that you clearly did not read. Demez is great...of course, since it's single target, that's one person at a time you are demezzing, and it assumes the demezzer's purge is up as well.
Some people choose to play classes that don't have stoicism and charge, but that is clearly the mistake we're making. Everyone should just roll light tanks and main tanks, then CC won't be an issue.
Speaking to this playerbase is like speaking to a dead horse. If it was up to them DAOC would have never changed since Oct 01. Clearly fans of the atari look and feel.
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kancle Posts: 86
Registered: 2011-8-2 03:54:57
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
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Mythic please nerf MEZZ |
There are so many ways around mezz. More than ever before.
Purge
Moc demezz from group
Det
Charge
AOE purge from main tank
Cloak demezz (though rarely used by realm mates)
Classes with mezz dampening
Maybe some other ways that I'm forgetting too.
If your a caster and your group can't demezz you, then they have already probably lost the fight.
If your a tank in need of a demezz than your RA's are not right.
I don't get the complaint really.
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
Subject:
Mythic please nerf MEZZ |
kancle posted:
If your a tank in need of a demezz than your RA's are not right.
Not every tank has stoicism. Even with det 9 and running red resists you can be looking at standing still for upwards of 20 seconds if purge is down.
There's a reason Charge can single-handedly make or break a class for RvR.
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wiciri Posts: 30
Registered: 2004-1-26 22:21:02
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
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Mythic please nerf MEZZ |
I haven't seen one of these in a while. As numerous people have already said, mezz has been nerfed repeatedly over the years. If you are standing out the entire duration of a mezz, you and your group are to blame.
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
Subject:
Mythic please nerf MEZZ |
wiciri posted:
I haven't seen one of these in a while. As numerous people have already said, mezz has been nerfed repeatedly over the years. If you are standing out the entire duration of a mezz, you and your group are to blame.
How about trying to get to the battle or back to it and your purge isn't up. Then what is the excuse for being stuck in mezz for over a minute?
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