How I see it, Pendragon was implemented to test things. Players are given the chance to help find bugs etc and also getting a head start on knowing what to expect from some things when they are new.

The reward they dangled is to help get players to help since fewer and fewer are willing to without reward now. It hasnt always been this way, Pendragon used to actually have a thriving population near what the main servers had.

The Pendragon Ring is NOT a new item, so if you were hoping for a chance at a new super item then yall should complain now. When I was a TL we helped with Pendragon events (Hide n Seek, Scavenger Hunts, etc), Pendragon Rings were given out as rewards then as well.

I forgot the actual stats but I do remember them not being rechargeable. So unless Mythic revamps the rings they arent worth holding your breathe over. Nice fluff items but nothing worth crying over.

 

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This makes more sense to me, its a minor thank you gift, dont believe it was meant to be game breaking, so for a short time (while charges remain) you will have a small boost.

Hey it's Mythics call, but if they ever want to lure people to test in the future in a similar fashion, then they better make sure the reward is more then just fluff.

If it's fluff anyway then just give it to anyone who even completed one hub and say so from the start, but doing a lottery style enticing for a useless reward is not going to sit well with those who came there for that reward.

That those who didn't bother to test would rather the reward be fluff makes absolute sense, but again Mythic is setting a future precedent. If you give fluff then you lose a lot of potential testers you had this time and gain no new ones for the next time. If however you give something useful akin to seasonal items, then you'll see Pendragon loaded next time you want something tested, because many people won't want to miss out. (Just like seasonal items that continue to be a huge hit with players every time they come around!)

The latter makes more sense to me, but maybe I'm just a capitalist.

 

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Lots of people copied over or /leveled then ran and hurried through a few hubs. That was alot (not all) of the testing done. I believe the only ones who should even qualify for a ring are those who reported a bug. The item being "fluff" will hold back alot of potential testers BUT those testers most likely werent testing to begin with just finishing content to try to get something.

One thing I would like to see is when a big patch is in testing, instead of dangling a carrot like tehy did they ask all that can to come to the server on a select day. Basically stress testing the patch, lots of people on 1 server and even Pendragons NF has action. Every account who participates in stress testing a patch is eligible for an ingame voucher for 1 seasonal item.

Not a new item, nothing game breaking, nothing noone hasnt had a chance to get already, but something people want.
This is testing that would benefit the game as well as be more realistic with todays playerbase.

There were testers and there were quest doers on Pendragon. Most, but not all, of the people crying over waiting for a Pendragon Ring fall into the latter category.

 

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This is a majority of the problem right there. Seems that many players couldn't give a crap unless they are getting a reward (not a gift mind you). Its all about me me me me me, its quite sad really

No reason to be attacking anyone. Lets keep it real simple.

Mythic stated on Herald that a ring was being Lotto'd to individuals willing to participate on Pendragon.
The announcement of who got the rings should be a small thing to ask.

I dont think anyone is expecting/demanding to on the list, but concern should be raised if it was a tactic used to fool us into testing.

Your right, I came off wrong there, my apologies (but it wasn’t meant to be directed at the person I quoted). Seems the topic went from WHEN to expect/announce winners, to WHAT should be expected from the Pendragon Ring.

The tactic in offering the Pendragon Ring for doing testing can be viewed in a couple ways.
1. Mythic hoped to increase the number of testers if they offered some form of gift/reward
2. Mythic realized that with the state of the current playerbase, unless they gave some form of gift/reward they wouldn’t receive that many testers


Gift being a thank you
Reward being more of a bribe or a way of saying it’s the only way to get the playerbase to help out.

I like to think Mythic went with #1, as a gesture of appreciation they would award testers with a GIFT. Not a reward. I will add that I have not been a member of VN or played Daoc from day one, and have caught snippets of past disappointments with how Mythic handled things.

Also, unfortunately I did participate in said testing (RL iirc) though I wish I had so that I would have a heads up on the details of the new quest, I believe I already have a 10lvl ranger on Pendragon. I do have 3 characters I plan on redoing as I want to have all my Molvik character on the same Ywain#, so at some point I will get to see what the new stuff entails. Can’t tell you how many times I’ve already seen the spam <insert players name> was just killed by something the Deceiver.

For those whom have tested, thank you /bow

It's called capitalism.

Why do people perceive it as rude, or even go so far as to vilify you for being capitalistic in your dealings with a major for-profit global corporate entity? Mythic created the contest and should be well aware of the fact that people expect a reward that was offered to be worthwhile, especially since it's a virtual reward that costs them nothing! Being stingy in rewarding other peoples time & commitment is probably not a good business model.

The fairly muted response to the contest should be an indication that people already have pretty low expectations of this reward, probably due to the extremely vague details of the contest. If they want to boost participation in testing patches on Pendragon in the future, which benefits them immensely, then they need to set a good precedent here and hand out a worthwhile reward to those who were there to test. (And it wasn't a lot of people. I never saw more then a dozen people on Pendragon/Albion in my 3 days and 8 hours or so of testing.)

Testing is a fundamental aspect of the software development cycle. If you want to feel warm and fuzzy inside about helping people out in a selfless manner, then please find one of your local non-profit charities that would welcome your help with open arms, and you may even meet some people who really need your help and will appreciate that you're offering your time for free.

 

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That's nice, but there is no such ambiguity as you propose in what Mythic originally said about the contest.

And I quote:

"As a reward we will give away "Pendragon's Ring", a trinket with decent stats and a limited amount of full buff charges identical to those received from a Druid/Cleric/Shaman with a 25% bonus to stat enhancement . "

The charges I don't care about, I just want the ring to be useful...it having "decent stats" implies that it will be. Not OPd, not "I win", and not something so powerful that everyone will kick themselves in the butt for not having received it, but something that is competitive with other modern gear and perhaps unique enough to be as desirable in the future as other seasonal gear is such as MoH, Halloween stuff, etc.

That's all I would ask, and would be enough to ensure that more people will take such a contest serious next time and come to Pendragon to test.

I'm actually pretty confident that Mythic will ensure that it's a decent enough item to be worthy of the title "reward."

 

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They said a thing about e-mail. Like sending a message about winning.
I actually have 2 accounts on one "master account" or how they call it. I.e. 2 in 1, so both accounts use one e-mail.
One account I use and other uses my bro. We tested things on pendragon on those accounts separately.
I wonder if we will be able to get rings on both accounts.