“The enemy of my enemy is my friend”


I for one always thought it was interesting when one of the three realms was out numbering the other two and the other two would form a tacit alliance to more effectively combat the realm with large numbers. The realms are not supposed to talk to coordinate attacks or form alliances but I have seen the enemy approach bowing, as if proclaiming a white flag of truce, and join forces with another realm to battle the overwhelming numbers of the third ream. It does not happen often but it does happen.


In general it is supposed to be, “if its red its dead” but that is not always the case, which can make things more interesting.


This is a three-realm battle and not a two-realm battle. Sometimes Albs and Mids (just as an example) battle almost to the end and just when it seems there will be a victor. . . .the Hibs, who have been waiting for the opportune moment, swoop in to wipe everyone and take the victory for them selves. These things just happen in a three-realm design.


Then there is are the silly things that take place.


This game is supposed to be, “If its red its dead” which means attack any enemy, anywhere, anytime and all the time. But there are those in the game who feel it is not honorable to join in on battles. Imo the concept of a fair battle or fair fight is an illogical concept because no one knows the makeup of the RR of the groups so it can appear that 1 on 1 is fair when it is not. One group could be much higher in RR so to be truly fair it could require 2 or even 3 on 1. Because of the dramatic differences possible in realm abilities there is no way to tell what is fair and what is not fair, so the only logical method is “if its red its dead”. But some people have strange existential ideologies and will not join in on existing battles.


Also, there is the stupid RR and RPs worshiping to consider. At one time in the game it was considered a good thing for one realm mate to help the other but then RPs came to be worshiped by the RP whores and it came to pass that anyone who joins into an existing battle suddenly became an RP leach and a pariah rather than a ream mate who was helping out. Imo it is an illogical way to play (worshiping RPs) but it is what it is and to play the game one needs to realize that RP whores exist.


So. . . .the game is what it is. It is dynamic and changing. It can have unexpected events. The game of DAoC, because of its third realm, creates a Frontier RvR environment that is unlike any other game.

 

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yes yes, it should... always... red = dead...

i dont care if its a solo, small man, 8 man, zerg... doesnt matter.. you see the enemy... you go and attack...

 

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So you came across duelers?

 

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And I disagree 100%. I remember camping Hib bridges on my Inf and a couple of shadowblades would roll up. I'd give them the ol' /surrender spam and about half the time they'd /surrender back and we'd troll hibs together. The other half of the time they'd attack. I had some great times ganging up on the third realm and emote spamming while they probably raged about us not killing each other.

On a semi-related note, I also find it funny that like 80% of the red=deaders are the same people that whine when they get jammed or added on.

 

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Contradiction, it's the RP whores adding on fights, which is the behavior you find desirable...

 

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You may be making my point about the worshipers of RPs. Only by changing the definitions could anyone call a helper with realm pride, an undesirable. . . ..


Before the RP worshiping, realm mates almost always helped each other and helping realm mates was considered honorable. What I find less than desirable are those who worship RPs to the point that realm mates become enemies or pariah if the realm mate should assist in a fight. It was only after the worshiping of RPs happened that those who assist became pariah/leaches. It is funny that before RP worshiping, helpers were simply players with realm pride who helped realm mates. By simply creating people who covet the RP, helpers and those with realm pride are now leaches.


Only by twisting reality would one be able to turn those who covet into the faultless and then turn the helping ‘good Samaritan’ into a leach.


I am not denying that there are players who add-on simply to leach RPs. But RP worshipers seem to have redefined the concept of ‘realm pride’ and reformed it into something negative. For the most part the number of add-ons pre RPs to post RPs has not increased at all. While those who add-on do get RPs, for the most part many who add-on are simply those who would have added on back when RPs did not exist at all. Many who add-on do so simply to help others of their realm, just like they did pre-RP.


Sorry but it should be very clear that the only thing that caused the term “leach” to be created as a term to define some of the DAoC players, and the only thing that caused those with realm pride to be lumped into the net of those called “leaches”, are those who worship RPs . . .not the other way around.


I am sorry for those who like RPs so much that it would turn them against those who still want to have realm pride and assist realm mates.


“If its red, its dead” has always been the way the game was intended to be played. It is fine for different play styles to exist, that is also part of the game, but the basic pure game is “If its red, its dead”

 

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Not duelers. Groups of different realms bumping into each other, stopping, and /waving /hugging each other. Sorry, but this seems like a reason not to play anymore.





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That's great and all, I enjoy the community aspect of games, but the battlegrounds/NF are the intended zone for enemy realm players to kill each other, not respect each other. Take that sh*t to VNBoards. It ruins the fun of the game for people who go there for the intended purpose of its design.