The problem I have with GW2 is this...


It's not RvRvR or WvWvW or whatever they want to call it.

Take a look at daoc. We have AvMvH.

What will GW2 have?

Same side v same side v same side. Where are you going to build the hatred? I HATE THOSE GUYS THEY ARE THE SAME RACES AND CLASSES AS USSSS!!!!

At least in DAoC I could direct my anger towards those dirty albs and their love for sheep, or those dumb mid trolls. And they could in turn direct anger to my shrimpy keen, or twigleaf elf and tree hugging.

To me GW2 is lacking in its ability to generate rivalries. Yeah, you can hate people because of their name or server but...bleh.

If daoc were albs v albs v albs, would you find it just as fun? I know I wouldn't

I think it's going to lack a true feeling of invasion of your lands. I could be wrong here, but this is how I feel about GW2.

 

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They just released more WvW details today on ANETs blog here. It could not be anymore DAoC 2 than if Mythic made it themselves back in 2001 with todays tech. I am seriously beside myself in anticipation and of course this community . . . well the community that use to be here, it doesn't seem like the same peeps these days but I still recognize a lot of names, are the ones I am really excited about playing with again.





That is an interesting point that I know concerns some people but I don't get it myself. I never hated on the other sides because they were different from mine. Actually, I was the goofball who never "hated" anyone but still loved to compete with them all and sometimes even meet them for picnics & duels in Hadrain's Wall. I respected my enemies, tried to learn from them and sometimes switched servers to play with them or joined up with them in new games. I think what builds a community that you wish to defend and battle for isn't so much gluing people together based on stereotypes but finding a common ground or familiar history to share rather than divide. It is my hope that when Guild Wars 2 comes out (soon we can hope! press beta event this weekend and some massive beta events in March & April otw) the developers who tout community in their game above everything else (awesome heartfelt ANET dev vid) will give us some tools to split worlds up into groups that maybe reflect a certain characteristic and of course it is my hope to find myself a home world full of former DAoC players who remember what good old fashioned Realm Pride felt like and build on that connection to make a new cohesive unit to throw down my virtual life for. Too idealistic or preachy of me?

 

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There are different degrees of “HATE”. While some players did/do actually hate the other realms, and allowing players to go in that direction can be good for bringing a realm together, I would view the term “I HATE THOSE GUYS. ..” more along the lines of ‘Realm Pride’.


In DAoC the other realms are ‘obviously’ the enemy. It is not so much that I actually HATE them, but simply that they are clearly and obviously the enemy. Many have forgotten and some never had any understanding or never had any Realm Pride but early on in DAoC ‘Realm Pride’ was important in giving the game the ambiance that attracted players to it.


The server wars, that the GW2 has, seem to give some ambiguity to the separatist feel that lends itself to fostering Realm Pride.


I am not so sure that the timed events that sound like ‘capture the flag before the timer ends’ where you are fighting against your own kind, will create the atmosphere that is necessary for the game to flourish.


I like the open and never ending battles of DAoC's BGs and NF. The timed events of WoW can have their place but I like the continual battle in the Frontiers and BGs.


It will be interesting to see how it all plays out. If the game has good, cohesive and comprehensive PvE, it will probably do well. If the game has a reason for the PvE players to head out to the battle grounds or to the Mist (a better draw than just something like RPs or a title) then the game will probably do well. If not, then probably not so well.

 

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People cry is its unbalanced, people cry if its perfectly balanced

 

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I see peeps from Pellinor?

Is that Xylla the Ministrel from Outsiderz!? (I'm getting old so I might have misremebered that... don't be offended)

That was at the peek of that server...

There are so many other factors that make Daoc what it is besides 3 sides. I think a lot of people are bugging out about this game cause of the 3 sides but forget all the other things that really make daoc the best rvr game. Gw2=fail.

 

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sick!