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angryranger  2 stars
Posts: 472
Registered: 2003-3-29 19:17:07
Fuzzion posted:

You see , most the peeps that played DAOC are now 25 to 40. They all have full time jobs and shit.
So GW2 is more or less like a casual form of DAOC which will attract a good number of ex-daoc and current daoc players.



Agreed. All the good without the bad, including no TOA!
Rhint  2 stars
Posts: 268
Registered: 2002-9-17 20:38:54
TropicanaJones posted:

angryranger posted:

Kedali-Pellinor posted:

angryranger posted:

several folks have said that it's daoc 2 - a much improved version of daoc's rvr.



Where did you see this? From what I saw in the videos and from what is being said in another thread, it sounds like the WvW is pretty uninteresting. I'm really disappointed. I don't know if I'll be playing after seeing this and reading what people are saying now that the NDA is down. There wasn't a single moment in any of the videos I saw where I actually wished I was playing.



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What I get from this video:

Ok its got 3 main areas, same as daoc
its got a whole nother area which is im guessing an improved version of agramon.
UI seems to be a little DAoCish...specially the tabs...they suck.
Graphics, pretty good.
Fairly sluggish model movements, seem a bit unrealistic.
Very nice map. Probably the best MMO map I have seen tbh
They stole daoc realm colors...red green and blue. Bastards.
I'm a little turned off by the /copy & paste of the terrain. I know daoc's is pretty much the same way. But it's a new mmo I can expect something from it.
I really don't like the 'team' thing. REALLY wish they had separate realms

the overall spells and location HUD is kind of cool.

Overall...I'm impressed. I watched the first video as well. It seems really large scale. I dunno how they are going to manage that. I would guess by not having as many keeps, I can't get much from the videos on that. Did notice a bit of lag.

I have been looking at a couple of video lately. I think I am going to change my stance on the 3 month wait. Only because it won't have a sub fee though. At the very least I can log in whenever I want and just dink around. We'll see how things go as they get closer to launch.

If the PvP is good, as it looks like it will be as close to daoc as we can hope for...well maybe not that close, but seems decent. If it's good, I'll take a stab at it

tl;dr version: I like some stuff, don't like others, may try it at release. I flip flopped.



Hey, this is probably as good as it's gonna get in terms of a "like DAoC" game. Lets try to enjoy it.

 

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Insolent_Ant
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Registered: 2002-7-8 17:24:45
Having fun gameplay for the first few hours you try it is one thing. It's quite another to keep that up for 100's and 1000's of hours. GW1 was amazing fun...for a little while. Warhammer was amazing fun...for a little while. DAoC was amazing fun...way back in the day. It means nothing to log onto the latest PvP game and say it's fun for the 10 hours you played it. Wait till the grind and repetitiveness sets in. Wait till class balance issues set in. Wait till people start exploiting to gain every little advantage. Wait till people figure everything out and it becomes hardcore or die. Almost any PvP game is fun while everything is fresh and new and you and everyone else is just farting around checking it out.

 

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Pillowjunky
Posts: 45
Registered: 2008-6-13 06:30:13
My DAoC account expires in a few days.

I gave level 50 another chance with a different toon only to be severely disappointed yet again. I can spend hours online asking nicely for a group while I do the new frontier quests. Nobody answers, and if they do, they ask me if I have a "pac healer" alt. The only groups I get are with the nightly zerg, and that's not my playstyle.

My advice to mythic or whoever is programming this game. Make level 50 battlegrounds with very minimal amounts of realm points gained. This is for those of us who don't have the ideal class or spec and want to pvp but can't find a group right away. The real achievements will always be had in the frontiers. For those of us who can't find a group right away, we can join the level 50 battlegrounds for "some action."

Anyway, I'm returning to WoW. As much as I am not a fan of the small group pvp in there, at least it's accessible to anyone who queues for a BG. I can always do arena with people if a group shows up, and if not.... I'll just randonmly join a battleground for some enjoyment.

That's what DAoC lacks. If you seriously have a PvP itch and can't find a group.... good luck lol.

Hope to see you all in Mists of Pandora, Guild Wars2, or Dominus.
Pillowjunky
Posts: 45
Registered: 2008-6-13 06:30:13
It only took me 3 days of playing WoW to realize why I quit in the first place. I logged on my priest to try a bit of pvp. Granted my gear is about 8 months out date, but I still have 34% damage reduction in my current outfit. I have 140k hitpoints. A feral druid sneaks up and crits me twice for over 50k damage while I'm insta healing myself for 20k max.

Moments later an elemental shaman crits me for 60k with lava burst, then crits me a few more times with his instas for over 15k each.

I can go on and on with examples like this. And from what I'm reading on the messageboards, things won't change by a lot even with the newer gear. Resilience is not keeping up with the damage out put from the new l33t PvE gear. There's that dreaded term "PvE Gear." After all these years, they still can't balance PvE gear in PvP. Truly pathetic.

What in gods name was I thinking when returning to that game?????
thedudebroreturns
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Pillowjunky posted:

It only took me 3 days of playing WoW to realize why I quit in the first place. I logged on my priest to try a bit of pvp. Granted my gear is about 8 months out date, but I still have 34% damage reduction in my current outfit. I have 140k hitpoints. A feral druid sneaks up and crits me twice for over 50k damage while I'm insta healing myself for 20k max.

Moments later an elemental shaman crits me for 60k with lava burst, then crits me a few more times with his instas for over 15k each.

I can go on and on with examples like this. And from what I'm reading on the messageboards, things won't change by a lot even with the newer gear. Resilience is not keeping up with the damage out put from the new l33t PvE gear. There's that dreaded term "PvE Gear." After all these years, they still can't balance PvE gear in PvP. Truly pathetic.

What in gods name was I thinking when returning to that game?????



WoW is horrible. As someone who got to 2200 once in the rare moment I had two team mates PATIENT and CONSISTENT enough to stick it out, WoW PvP is watered down for noobs.

Position or strategy means little until you get to high rated PvP. In DAoC, position meant getting styles off and not letting your opponent get their attacks off.

WoW is all about who can use the least amount of cooldowns while saving your own. WoW is also about who happens to be the right OP class at the right time. When I played Feral druid about 1 year ago before the nerfs, I would smash nearly all classes except a Blood DK.

I honestly played WoW as a gloryseeker to get high in arena brackets and have bragging rights, etc. Getting an arena team going in that game even if you are on a PvP popular server like KT or Illidain doesn't really help your chances either. People that PvP in that game have the biggest chip on their shoulder that is largely undeserved. I have healed arena team attempts only to have DPS rage quit after they realize that I am pretty much skill capped and they are just dragging along. I have had these same players challenge me to duels only to get embarrassed in matches where I am either playing an underpowered class or equal, undergeared at times.

All this said, wish I spent my time playing Warhammer/DAoC even through the tough times instead of WoW (Lich King and on)

I have read this and WAR's board and find that there doesn't seem to be a lot of enthusiasm for GW 2 which is a shame. Anyone who has played MMOs can appreciate the production value and design that goes behind GW 2. The diversity of every class looks versatile, encompassing of any role needed, and seemingly balanced.

I didn't play GW 1 because not being able to jump bothered the hell out of me. I came to find out that it had a strong fanbase and was quite competitive with it's PvP content having ladders and such. Will be checking out GW 2, only MMO worthwhile to checkout.

SWTOR could have done better but is pretty much a WoW clone.
Jumo_007  1 star
Title: Brehon Buddha
Posts: 138
Registered: 2006-7-11 08:09:31
Fuzzion posted:

You see , most the peeps that played DAOC are now 25 to 40. They all have full time jobs and shit.
So GW2 is more or less like a casual form of DAOC which will attract a good number of ex-daoc and current daoc players.



THIS is really accurate.

I love daoc, loved logging in EVERY night to pvp/rvr for hours and hours, and laughed at the casual/pve types of games. The last year of daoc has really kinda burned me out, don't like Ywain and what daoc has become. As of late, it is feeling old to me.

Now I still wanna pvp/rvr, don't get me wrong, I just do not feel the need to do that and only that in a game. Now I desire a well made game, with solid population, with pve and pvp, so I can play casual mode sometimes, and play more hard core or competitive at other times. GW2 looks like it will fit my needs pretty well.

 

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