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andynNIN  1 star
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Registered: 2004-9-27 21:50:26
DarkPCK posted:

Windwalkr posted:

We do need a means to re-gain initiative, especially vs. Archers where we will always be attacked first and have literally no way to defend ourselves but to either attempt to run away or charge in.


So do archers need a way to regain initiative when they're hit by adds/jam/other archers?



hmm, lets see, PZ, speed burst, moc, kite and restealth, zephyr... anything else im missing?


why whinge about other classes on an acolyte board? when you could go to that board and whinge all you like.

 

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DarkPCK  2 stars
Title: Got to go house is on fire.
Posts: 457
Registered: 2003-12-14 12:38:01
andynNIN posted:

DarkPCK posted:

Windwalkr posted:

We do need a means to re-gain initiative, especially vs. Archers where we will always be attacked first and have literally no way to defend ourselves but to either attempt to run away or charge in.


So do archers need a way to regain initiative when they're hit by adds/jam/other archers?



hmm, lets see, PZ, speed burst, moc, kite and restealth, zephyr... anything else im missing?


why whinge about other classes on an acolyte board? when you could go to that board and whinge all you like.


Don't mad, k? I play 0/3 archer classes, and 3/3 Acolyte classes. It was not a whine and was merely switching the classes around to show that these are analogous situations, and demonstrate that this is a dumb request. As Devaster posted, it opens up huge balance issues for grouping since it would undoubtedly lead to QC being given to (at the very least) Healer, Shaman, Bard, Druid, and Warden.

 

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DukkmanDrakke  1 star
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It wasnt a "dumb request." Geeze. It wasnt a request at all. I was just opening up a topic of conversation. Didnt know if anyone else had ever brought it up before. I never thought about it before. I wondered what other people thought - people like Andyn, for one. He usually has something substantive to say, while you post little videos accusing me of trolling. You say I'm trolling and then you say I'm making a dumb request. Why dont you just say you dont think its a good idea and drop it. I would never belittle you like that. You probably wouldnt do that in person, but on the interwebz its apparently OK.

So there's class balancing issues with the main healers of the other realms... I hadnt thought about that. Good point. Personally I'd be OK if Druids got something similar at 35 or 40 nature spec. And Pac Healers could have it too, though I dont know what they'd take the time to hit the button since that have so many instas, but whatever.

Heres another dumb request: Be nice.

I remember back when daoc released, vn was a nice place to discuss the game. Those days are just gone I guess.
DarkPCK  2 stars
Title: Got to go house is on fire.
Posts: 457
Registered: 2003-12-14 12:38:01
DukkmanDrakke posted:

Heres another dumb request: Be nice.


If there was a nice way to say "you did not think this through thoroughly" I would have typed that.

 

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andynNIN  1 star
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Registered: 2004-9-27 21:50:26
DarkPCK posted:

DukkmanDrakke posted:

Heres another dumb request: Be nice.


If there was a nice way to say "you did not think this through thoroughly" I would have typed that.



i fully agree with you, clerics will never get quick cast, and due to the fact it will cause uprise with every other healing/light support class its just not worth asking for or does a cleric need it..

hey even i have gotten over the whole 'give clerics acuity buff' as its just not worth the hassle and the implentations for every other class that could benefit from acuity.

as journeymen like windwlker have said, the need for clerics are something unique like a ranged interupt, or lowering (power and cast time) the aoe smite spell and increase the range/aoe range or the spell

 

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Fazzavich
Posts: 30
Registered: 2009-7-12 06:06:40
DarkPCK posted:

DukkmanDrakke posted:

Heres another dumb request: Be nice.

If there was a nice way to say "you did not think this through thoroughly" I would have typed that.

making up for what u lack IRL imo. e-balls ftw

 

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imapawn  1 star
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Registered: 2011-5-26 09:52:22
DarkPCK posted:

DukkmanDrakke posted:

Heres another dumb request: Be nice.


If there was a nice way to say "you did not think this through thoroughly" I would have typed that.



Lol. You say "I disagree, you didnt think that through thoroughly, heres why..."

Not that hard.

I agree with the sentiment and Wind though, there needs to be a way to regain initiative in some situations. Its the same issue with heavy tanks, but they have 3500 hits/400ish strength, +10 to all magic resists and 800ish af(which I guess is doable on clerics too) and killer uninteruptable damage if they get close enough. I guess you have to play with LOS issues on either class though. I dont think quickcast is a horrible idea if they get it high in the smite line though. 40-45 or something.

I'd say a inta dd or something is more along the lines of a good solution. Again, high in smite to make it fair in 8v8 situations. Wouldnt help for molv or thid, but game should balanced for 50.

 

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DarkPCK  2 stars
Title: Got to go house is on fire.
Posts: 457
Registered: 2003-12-14 12:38:01
Fazzavich posted:

DarkPCK posted:

DukkmanDrakke posted:

Heres another dumb request: Be nice.

If there was a nice way to say "you did not think this through thoroughly" I would have typed that.

making up for what u lack IRL imo. e-balls ftw


Clearly, it takes a lot of IRL balls to hold a grudge for being incapable of beating a group in a game in a straight up fight~ Fazzavich, you ain't good.

 

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DarkPCK  2 stars
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Registered: 2003-12-14 12:38:01
imapawn posted:

DarkPCK posted:

DukkmanDrakke posted:

Heres another dumb request: Be nice.


If there was a nice way to say "you did not think this through thoroughly" I would have typed that.



Lol. You say "I disagree, you didnt think that through thoroughly, heres why..."

Not that hard.


Even that is not a particularly nice way of phrasing it.

 

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Syndiz  2 stars
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Registered: 2009-2-12 14:06:39
Yes, clerics are suffering.

 

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