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Author Topic: Another Monkey Wrench towards zerker damage [Locked]
Garduf
Posts: 7
Registered: 2002-1-13 23:56:23
most people would be more than happy to give any mid class that is weak currently a large buffing if zerkers are toned down to reasonable. just as i'm sure most people would gladly give ments, elds, and chanters (except mana lines) loving if mana chanters could be brought down some.


maybe we will be lucky and the mid and hib patches will address mana chanters/zerkers, and give some classes in dire need of help some love.

 

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Taeolen
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Here's what I learned from reading the VN boards.


All Hibs and Albs are stupid, unskilled, under equipped, low real point idiots, and THAT is the reason why we get hit so hard by Zerkers!


It's NOT because the class is overpowered, guys!


C'mon! Don't you see this?


/sarcasm off
{old}Adrydana
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hmmm... just because they have had 4 zerkers once doesnt mean they usualy have it. remember I FRIKKIN GROUP WITH THEM EVERY DAY...hello? im not confused. you're all pathetic hypocrites. yelling noob and fotm does absolutely nothing, it doesnt change the situation... frankly i enjoy posting here mainly because its like fishing with dynamite. ah yes, i am a FOTM noob zerker that doesnt nothing but spam doublefrost. yeah ok, 1) all zerker styles has the same animation. so unless the zerker is in front of you , you have NO idea what style they are using. kthxbai. 2) spamming DF = death, without knowing what the hell you're doing. besides, its like saying Armsmen or heroes only spam 1 style as well. or assassins only use PA, CD and stunning jab. well, duh...i dun tell you guys that you're noobs just because you use the best styles you got eh? <shrugs> that doesnt mean anything really. i dun see how using our best anytime style is wrong, or how that makes me a noob 3) 200k+ RP gain a week, oh yeah... im FOTM alright. besides RR or RPs means dick to me. 3 words: hypocrites, noobs and jealousy. that about sums you people up
Nokekula
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definition of hypocrisy:


blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

besides RR or RPs means dick to me. 3 words: hypocrites, blah, blah, blah


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Seter
Posts: 17
Registered: 2002-10-14 09:13:33
1. hypocrites : I don't hit other tanks as hard as zerkers hit me.


2. noobs : Been here since day 1


3. jealousy : If heroes hit as hard as zerkers do to all classes then I'd be the first to call a nerf on myself.

 

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Kowyn
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Midgard classes I fear:


Savage

Zerker

Shaman

Bonedancer

Healer

Runemaster

Spiritmaster

Hunter

Shadowblade

Skald

Thane

Warrior


A few of them have shortcomings that could use improvements, the vast majority are as good or better than their other realm counterparts.


Zerkers are simply at the top of our list of imbalances in this game. We want it fixed. Mythic has shown that complaints equal balancing issues. Smite Clerics were complained about for a good 8 months before they were finally nerfed. The same will happen to zerkers, and when it does happen it will be sweet. Why? Because just like Smite Clerics were, Zerkers are in absolute denial of how powerful they are. And frankly who wouldn't be? The Zerker class gives yourself the illusion of dominance in a very simplistic manner. You don't really have to work for it.


As to the rest of you mid defenders, I suggest you heed the advice of every class that has ever been nerfed to hell. Don't wait for Mythic to come up with the balancing ideas, because they will screw you over. Make your own suggestions for tuning down Zerker damage, or you'll be left standing out in the cold.
Garduf
Posts: 7
Registered: 2002-1-13 23:56:23
And Adrydana shows his/her age...

i would likely lean toward his, but thats another issue.

 

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ValourofPercival
Posts: 2
Registered: 2002-9-22 08:34:00
Adrydana: "i dun think so, i run with her every day. we have never had over 3 zerkers. some times only 2. "


In one post you claim you "never" run with more than 2 zerkers.


the next you claim you "once" ran with more than 2 zerkers.


Are you going to say you "usually" run with more than 2 zerkers in your next post?


Someone in Albion has already confirmed that it happens frequently. You are not achieving anything by denying it, it's not even an important fact. One is never in a situation which would justify name hurling and false accusations, but to repeatedly do so simply destroys your credibility. Please do not over generalize your statements to include everyone and do not simply accuse Staghorn or lying just because you do not like the point that he is trying to bring up.


Focus on the issue of zerker damage. Lanalae did a great job of presenting her poitns. I think Lanalae has made her own position clear very reasonably and in the way we want to conduct a discussion.

 

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Jarvssen
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There may not be a "Nerf BoF" thread every single day.


But everytime there is its from a Zerker.
Staghorn_Moonlancer
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Skegg: Bored are you? Then don't read the thread. You have only yourself to blame if you keep coming back and back to the same thread if you are bored with it. With all the posts this thread is getting and the flurry of private messages I have been receiving when I normally get none, i'd say that most people dont share your opinion. So just ignore the thread, it’s that simple bro.


Hajj: Take my quote into context and the supposed conflict will magically disappear. I swear, people misquote others far too much. If you were paying attention you will recall that the quote you used was in a post I made referring to Faed when he mentioned that all I need to do to defeat a zerker is roll a spear hybrid hero (which I have) so I can shield slam them. I then said that yes, with that one specific spec of the hero class, a 1 on 1 duel with a zerker gives the hero a pretty good chance of winning if and only if the zerker uses vendo and thus brings his defense down and allows me to get my shield slam off without fail. I did not say, as you inferred, that zerkers are easy to take at all times, in vendo and not in vendo, as long as they are 1 on 1. My point was that because zerkers are always in groups (in the company of many more of themselves) stunning and meleeing a zerker is pointless because he can be healed by his pet healer, and charging the healer is pointless because I can be 2 shotted from behind by the zerker.


Read things in context, or, as you would say, "think a little more before you post".

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