Please don't forget to mention that it is obvious he was running away the whole time (as evident that the target he was attacking was getting to far to attack, and that it says he was to fatigued to sprint, hmmm maybe someone should have had a End Regen potion on them), and back styles are deadly.

<< Cry More!


Only thing I see is Albion/Hibbies Whine Whine Whine Whine until something gets nerfed, which doesn't need nerfing at all.


All you dudes who want a Zerker nerf are all wanting the I WIN ALL THE TIME BUTTON for your shirt.


Give it up!


Hell last 3 patch have been nothen but Albion adds to an already over powered realm. If all you Albs traded places with Mids on a level base, we ALBs(Mids) would kick you arse all over the place. You just got no skills(tactics) cept a zerg. Fess up and quit your whining.


Ya there a few albs who know how to pharm, or gank group, but thats it.


Ceyah! >>


Okay, right here I see:


1) Cry more n00b

2) Another Cry more n00b

3) A 'you dun have our skillz kthx'

4) Use tactics, n00b!

5) Proclaiming Mids have more l337 skillz than the other realms

6) Usage of the word pharm

7) 'Ceyah'


Worst.

Post.

Ever.


<< Hell last 3 patch have been nothen but Albion adds to an already over powered realm. >>


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Uh.


Can we laugh now?


... A Mid calling Albion overpowered?


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Bahahahaha


I certaintly don't hope this is what a lot of Midgard has been reduced to... or I pity all of the really good people left in that realm

"Please don't forget to mention that it is obvious he was running away the whole time"


Staghorn doesn't 'run away'. I've grouped with him every morning for well over 2 months now. He plays his class very well and the last thing he is is a coward.


I would say he was probably trying to catch a healer/caster that had permasprint, or trying to protect his support/casters.


As has been said, there is next to no options for hib tanks to do to help their group survive an onslaught of the 'normal' mid group anymore.


Especially that group they ran into since that group normally has at least 3 zerkers in it.

 

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No she wasn’t Hajj, she was supposed to attack me with everything she has, just like I attack my enemies with everything I have.


That is why this thread is addressing the issue of the overpowered zerker class, not the players who use this class. I am not mad at any zerker here, I am only mad at people who turn a blind eye to the obvious so that they can keep their precious broken invinci-mages.


Skegg, this post was not a whine at all, but rather an answer to a challenge. When I read other zerker threads I heard wild claims of 1000+ zerker damage, much as I have experienced, but the only remark the whiner gets from mids is, "I don believe joo, where’s yer ss n00b? Prove it". So this post was just a kick in the ass, a wake up call, and forces people to either:


A) Agree that zerker damage is indeed outrageous

B) Pathetically defend zerker damage, even with insane damage captured as evidence, staring them in the face

C) Ignore the problem and hope it goes away


At least now people can’t be called liars or exaggerators about their claims to the damage they have received due to broken zerkers with my example here for all to gaze at. Even still, no one has given any realistic reason for a melee class to output so much damage with a one-hand slash weapon. The best argument for such damage I have heard so far is that it is the recipient’s fault for having EPIC SCALE on which is, of course, ludicrous.

Staghorn was not running away, he was chasing Gramse. I happened to be late to join battle as I was afk and lost follow when group sprinted into fight. I came back and saw Gramse was being chased by a big blue firbolg.


Every style used was a back style, the Snowsquall -->> Icy Brilliance combo. And all hits were done in Vendo mode and as a result all hits included criticals.


To be honest I find both alb and hibs are able to field very potent groups, but the groups that tend to cause the most problems remain tight, dont get Kited, heal well, and utilize wardens and assisting for hib side, and albs use BoF, and assisting with some mage dot's nukes mixed in.


Groups that stand out to me are Sloane's team that uses 2 wardens often, and on the alb side Predians groups with a few friars that exchange roles healing and fighting, and the Valiant Glory groups led by Tesfaye that sadly have become rare lately. When Adanvan puts together a team I usually die atleast 2 or 3 times before we get some lucky breaks and manage to win.


Ive been just as frustrated by Hib and Alb encounters as some of the posters here. A good team can win with good tactics and some luck against any group. Some times the basics like assisting, secondary CC after the 1st round of mez/stuns, and using all resources like heals even from wardens and friars at key times are what will put you over the top.


The hits on Staghorn in this example are not unusual for me, and yes realm rank does play a role, the increase in weapon skill that comes with each rank do help. But I get hit very hard by other tanks, so much so I have had to go with capped resists, aug con 3, and Avoid Pain 2 to keep an edge. Most of all any time someone is lining me up for a back attack, I move. Fighting well isnt as simple as some make it sound. The game gives opportunities to interact in dynamic ways, responding to threats and seizing opportunities. If your not collecting information every second of the battle and making decisions then your not going to be as effective as you can be.


I don't really care if people believe its skilless to play a berserker, fact of the matter is it takes a good team to win battles and really thats all there is to it.


All we can do is go out there and work with what we have, design tactics around our strengths, and try to prevent enemies from exploiting our weaknesses.


Most of all I think that we are lucky to have good enemies to fight each day, people that make the battles fun. I hope that the animosity expressed here in the thread isnt personal, as I have the utmost respect for the foes that we face each day.


Sincerly, Lanalae Frost.

we have zerks u have enchanters. Get over it.

 

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Yorex = Are you 11? If so you are excused. But explain to me reasonably why any class can hit for 1000+ with a 1h slash weapon. If you can then you can do a great thing, for no one else has been able to do so successfully.


Lef = Actually, bezerkers are historical figures too. They were highly prized warriors and were not invincible. The thing that made them so terrifying was their lack of concern for their own well being. They would work themselves up into a frenzy by throwing of their clothes, screaming, growling, and lashing at themselves with their own weapons. This was a psychological warrior, not a supernatural one, and he terrified his enemies because of his lack of concern for himself. They were very hard to beat in combat because the bezerker used an axe and thrust his body heedlessly into the foray, ignoring his own wounds.


However in large-scale battles, bezerkers were the first to die, and they died in hordes.


Lanalee: Woot! The big blue firbie! /flex That be me, mwahaha. However your attacks are not justified simply by realm rank or back positional. The fact is that I get hit for just as much damage by many other bezerkers from all sides, front side and back, styled or unstyled, vendo or not. I DO have SS's to prove this; I have many, many SS's of many different encounters with many different zerkers and all of them show myself being hit for at least 700+, but more often than not, 900+. My SS gallery grows with each morning (I have 2 from this morning). Sadly for bezerkers such as yourself, the evidence does not stack in favor of back styles/poor AF/realm rank, etc. If this were truly the case, then I would only be hit for such damage by you, but I am not, as many of the other posters in this thread have clearly expressed. No fault to you for fully using a broken class given to you by Mythic, but do not defend your class if you have any shred of honesty in your hairy little body.


And to whomever said I was running from battle, I was the first into the foray and the last to fall. I killed one, I think... maybe another, I dont quite remember. I think I switched to a healer because the target I was on kept getting healed and as I chased him around he sprinted and then skald-sped away (how on earth he did that I do not know) and just then Lanalee came from behind to nock me down in a few hits, making my IP something to laugh at. I do carry endpots with me but in a battle like that, they are far too clumsy (and useless) to use. I wish Mythic would let us use them without disengaging from combat and without having to hold “E”.

Adrydana says: "that sounds all nice a dandy Faeyd, but why should i purge an AE CC that lasts no longer than 10 secs with Det 3+ resists? no form of AE CC lasts longer than 15 seconds on me. besides, being rooted means nothing since someone ALWAYS runs by me with dmg shield on ;-) besides, getting a group running with speed 5 + sprint towards you CCed before some of us at least reaches you is kinda hard. oh yeah, insta mez.. that icon flashes the sec is hits me, so that wont last long <shrugs>"


Anyone else think that this is the worst defense for leaving Zerkers as they are ever?


Looks to me like you have far more power than any other class.


Zerkers are _sick_. The Class is out of the scale right now.


Take some of their damage and give it to wardens. I'll be happy with 25-50 points more damage per hit. I could do maybe 125 points then. WHEEEE


Gwal

<< we have zerks u have enchanters. Get over it. >>


Then tell me, your godliness Budakan... why do your Berserkers do as much damage as an Enchanter, if not more when they are mages and yours are not?

Lef_Grebo said: " just wanted to say that based on the abouve quote, Navneimu-Furystick has no frickin clue what the berzerker powers were based on norse myth. According to Norse Myth a Berserker was INVULNERABLE to any kind of damage while in a fit of rage. He also killed whatever he hit while in a rage. In fact, according the Norse Myth, the only way to kill a zerker was to wait until AFTER the fit left him. At that point the berserker was in a feeble state and unable to defend himself. "


OK, So give Zerkers Vendo every 7 minutes but when its over give them A form of rez sickness that reduces their endurance regen to 20% of normal, Their HP regen to 20% of normal and greys out their sprint button/ability as well as acts as a debuff of all stats for 75 Points and Hitopints by 200 points.


If the reduced hitpoints results in Berserker death... too bad.


There.. Balanced.


Gwal