2)Blaming 1 man for bashing the doors when 250 did it. For those of you who are not familiar with alb chats in relic defense (ie Hibs and Mids), I have yet to be in one where most of the cg is not spamming for "teaching a lesson" after defending. Hell, when we retake a keep, many of the albs spam to "teach a lesson" to the realm we retook the keep from. [edit: The majority might not want to teach a lesson, but the majority of the ones that actually speak up do. The rest remain silent]


This is very true, good point

 

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I didn't say it was a blockbuster.. but it is now worth reading.. well all but that one chansterfan post.. It's so long I cant be bothered.. I just skim along and look for things like STFU, WTFPWNT etc.. or quote marks cause usually that means someone did the work of reading for me and I can just read the good parts.

<<our nightly bashing of every keep in Alb, when Albion has no relics whatsoever, may well accomplish the same thing Gannd mentioned happened in Hib at the time.>>


Chansterfan, in the long run, don't you think that would be a good thing? If a lot of the front running Albs left and Alb was left with a smaller, more realm-centric core of people, wouldn't it be better for everyone?

"albs could lose half their population and still be ok"


Not so sure about this. If it happened, the albs would actually have to learn how to play their characters. I can't seem to learn to play my sorc in emain. I get a group. We roll out, I ask who is MA twice and get ignored. We get rolled with me being the first to die. No rps. Half the group bails. We reform and the same thing happens. I went out the first 4 times (3 of them didnt make it to AMG thanks to LA) and each time, we had a different makeup. I got 4000 rps yesterday and about 4 were in emain. If not for the group volleying CS, DrSpock, and the XP group near HPK in Hadrians, I wouldn't have gotten a damn thing.


People don't realize how much the zerg hurts albion. Not just rp-wise, it turns us into sheep.

Okay, so one group of RR8 kicking 3 groups of low RR players is okay, depending on whether it is a hib or a mid high RR group ganking alb low RR groups, or if it one group of high RR albs kicking butts out of 3 groups of low RR hib / mid groups ?


Coz that is where the "solely" defending your argument on Albions numeric advantage lead. Having less people does not make cheesy tactics smell any better when YOU do them. Especially in a game where just how high your RR and now ML abilities and artifacts (those that havent been nerfed to bits) plays an important part of the outcome of the fight. A zerg meeting and rushing into one group with 3 aoeérs will be cut in no time It isnt always about the numbers.


Hib and Mid have other advantages playing for them.


I cant really speak for Hib classes from personal experience with a Hib toon, I think my level 3 or 4 Hibbie on I forgot which server is still lost in TNN somewhere. But I did play Mid for a bit to see what those toons are capable of. And the answer to that is, a hell of a lot. And I've been on the receiving end of good Hib players, and those are anything but gimped. Each realm has its advantages, and its disadvantages.


EDIT: Grammar, sigh.

Mel, I agree with you. However, what might happen then could be that the tables will be reversed, with another problem. Relatively low RR albs compared to the high RR Hib and Mid groups that already know how to play their toons and know their fellow players. Back to the PUGs vs. Regular groups thing


See Emtee's post right there, that is the sad reality of a lot of Alb groups.


If Mythic gave players the option to move their chars from realm to realm on the same server, say once a year, or once every 6 months, keeping RPs and level intact (of course the class would change)...


Ding 50 on the scout at last btw.

heh, was browseing through and saw malyv saying someone else was on easy mode. nothing like a good flame thread to bring a little amusement during class

 

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good grief folks are still venting??!....


Anyway, back on topic... AWC is breaking up...


Nice try on creating an alliance with as many Albs as you could. It lasted longer than I thought it would (just being honest... not intended as a flame) with that many people in one spot.


Large guilds are hard to maintain the comfort level and happiness of everyone. Large alliances are even harder. Y'all gave it a shot and for that I /salute you.


Gheris, ignore the flames, you tried, that's all anyone can do. If people (Albs) thought that Hib raid was such a bad idea, then they shouldn't have attended. (Many of us didn't that night.) If they didn't want to follow you on raids, no one forced them. Not sure what people expect of a leader or a realm warleader or whatever title anyone wants to come up with... all any one individual can do is follow his/her conscience and do the best job they can. It's my belief you did your best. For that I /salute you as well.

Well, people were venting, having a friendly discussion, and trying to get Deeshay to improve on his reading and comprehension skills, but to no avail on the latter

Lets take a look at some very important points that the Hib Whiners and Gheris Bashers are missing:


1. Gheris and ID's are constantly being talked about in the same messages as if he is in that guild. He is not.


2. Did Gheris break his ToS by committing a RoC violation by breaking down a few doors? He did not.


3. Gheris isn't God. He makes mistakes like the rest of us. But at least he is risking his own popularity by getting out there and trying, which is what 98% of the players refuse to do.


4. Gheris being the reason that 1/3 of Hib canceled?

ROFLLMAO. Not, I would be more inclined to believe that it was more than likely a small core of Hib leaders pissing off their own realm than 1 Alb leader.


So Basically, according to the game mechanics that Mythic has put in, breaking down a few doors in an enemy players realm is NOT a violation of RoC, nor can it be deemed as a "mistake" and saying right after, i.e; "Oops, I didn't mean to hit that button on my quickbar taking down that door, sorry y'all, oh well, all and good, maybe a bunch of Hibs will quit".


To the Hib Whiners and Gheris Bashers -Yeah right, get some common sense, give us a break, and play this game the way it was meant to be played so we can have fun.