"ou are all a bunch of pigs."


I guess that proves you are what you eat. AFK for lunch, inc mesquite chicken with BACON.

"2. Did Gheris break his ToS by committing a RoC violation by breaking down a few doors? He did not."


You are completely missing the point. Nobody said anything about ToS. What the albs did that day hurt THEM far more than it hurt hibs. What fun are albs going to have in rvr if they drive all the hibs and mids from this server? Albs shot themselves in the foot with this one, and it just amazes me how many people who talk about "wars" and stuff are so oblivious to that.


I am not going to blaim it all on Gheris, but as the leader of the raid, he has to shoulder a large portion of the responsibility. He could have explained to the albs saying "teach the hibs a lesson" how very bad that would be for the Albion realm. He should have thought of his realm first before his petty desire for revenge. He should have realized that having hibs attempt a relic raid was a GOOD thing for his realm, because it indicated that hibs were possibly on a come back and might rvr more. If you are going to be a leader, you need to really think through the consequences of your actions before you commit to them.

" They shoudl make MMORPG 18+ only... jesus... we need more maturity. "


Then you couldn't play khall, you big noob.


/wave

All I can say is:


haha


Who didn't see this coming?

"ou may like him, you may hate him. Gheris IS a leader.

The definition of a leader boils down, eventually, to who the rest of the people follow, and who people listen to when he or she speaks. Title is irrelevant.

And the fact that you agree or disagree to some of the stuff he did - does not make him any less a leader."


Put me down for h8 plz

 

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"Remember the first night TNO busted 2 doors in Excal and got stopped on door 3, and afterwards said "we didnt want the relics, we just opened the doors for the Mids hoping they'd come get them", or something to that effect... Mind telling me how THAT is different from Albs breaking down Hib RK doors ? If you want to take the relics, fine. If you want to just make the other realm pay for new doors, with all due respect, there is NOTHING different between that raid the Hibs whine about to this day, and what present day Hibs did not so long ago. And no, I'm not talking about the night they TOOK the relics. So again, we have the famous double standard rear its ugly head."


Ok gonna take this comment and give you the truth on what we were really trying to do here.


When we first hit excal, it was w/ 3 rams. It was after we were getting bored of the cruddy defense the 90 albs that previously hit Renaris were giving by not coming out to fight. So yes in fact we didn't want to take the str relics at that point. However, shortly after Albs brought 300, yes spam on the RK was 300, to take the powers from us in "retaliation," and to flex their power to make us not do that again. The lamers actually killed the 150 defenders we had w/ their numbers and lag and were able to send 100 to amg w/ their power relic AND hold the RK w/ 2 hundred.


From the night forward our guild decided our next goal would be to take every single relic from the Albs. First we took the powers within 24hours. At that point Mids, ALbs, hell even some hibs were calling us pansies for going for the powers and not the str relics, this only added fuel to the fire.


We figured out how to beat the Alb Str relic defense that everyone on this bored said we couldn't. And began a campaign to do just that. It was basically a two week/200k rp seige. We beat the defenders down so much that they just didn't want to die anymore. Every night and every defeat less and less Albs would come out cause they knew what was in store for them.


And RE: the whole giving relics away and the double standard. There is no double standard, it is two entirely different sets of circumstances. Albs had and HAVE the ability to defend 6 relics. Hibs do not. Albs infact played the role of "big brother" and was basically playing god by deciding which of the two smaller realms got what relics. I made the decision to give the relics out of neccessity. We didn't want Mids with relics, certainly not 3. But if they got Theirs and albs it would put them under the barrel of the Alb legions before it would us. In hindsight it turned out better cause it has boosted Mid pop in rvr and Mid defense.


And I have much <3 for Gheris, I mean the guy is practically responsible for half of my guild's realm dings .

 

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"I am not going to blaim it all on Gheris, but as the leader of the raid, he has to shoulder a large portion of the responsibility. He could have explained to the albs saying "teach the hibs a lesson" how very bad that would be for the Albion realm. He should have thought of his realm first before his petty desire for revenge. He should have realized that having hibs attempt a relic raid was a GOOD thing for his realm, because it indicated that hibs were possibly on a come back and might rvr more. If you are going to be a leader, you need to really think through the consequences of your actions before you commit to them. "


Gheris' goal is to drive all the mids and hibs away, hence winning. He posted as much on the boards a long time ago. That is where I lost all respect for him. Gheris, every flame you've recieved here is well deserved and then some.

 

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If that is true (I'd love to see that thread), then we have a nominee for biggest jacka$$ in DAoC ever.

 

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Screw the link

 

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200

 

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