Erm, I said


"So yes, against 100 defenders at a RK, you NEED 200 attackers, especially when the terrain has you fighting an uphill battle, something you do not need to do, say, when attacking Myrd."


To clarify, if a relic keep has 100 defenders, I doubt it is empty.

"The comparison was between one of the first times TNO hit Excal. If you are NOT going to take the relics, I fail to see the difference between hitting an empty relic keep and hitting an "occupied" relic keep with the intention of just busting the doors"


ok here's the differnce- TNO said they were hoping mids would come in and take the relics- why? because mid was hurting- with population the way it is on lancelot, to have one realm dissappear and not rvr because it isnt fun for them cuts down on everyones fun. I personally love it when mids are active and quick to defend, makes it fun to take their keeps and i feel like i have more rvr options. Hate to beat on a realm when they are down. there are always tons of albs so no biggie.


truth is albs could have defended against that on that night. On the night when all hib keeps were dropped hibs could barely scrape togather 60 ppl for a RR and when we did we got 200 albs in our frontier, we were already down and hurting and even if every single level 50 in hib had come that was on- there was still nothing we could have done. there was no one in hib to point fingers at or to complain at for not helping- there just wasnt ANYTHING anyone could do


so basic difference is tno was trying to balance things out and make the game fun for everyone and the attack on hib was just ruin the game for a lot of people

What does this all accomplish once you turn off the little box you call a computer? Do you lay in bed at night thinking of a come-back for the last poster who got under your skin?


Ten years from now, do you think that you will care what someone said on a messege board as you go about your routine? Would you think better of yourself because in your mind your cock strutted the best in the henhouse?


Get over it.

 

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"Remember the first night TNO busted 2 doors in Excal and got stopped on door 3, and afterwards said "we didnt want the relics, we just opened the doors for the Mids hoping they'd come get them", or something to that effect... Mind telling me how THAT is different from Albs breaking down Hib RK doors ? If you want to take the relics, fine. If you want to just make the other realm pay for new doors, with all due respect, there is NOTHING different between that raid the Hibs whine about to this day, and what present day Hibs did not so long ago. And no, I'm not talking about the night they TOOK the relics. So again, we have the famous double standard rear its ugly head."


^^^^^ there ya go

sry quoted the wrong part of your post

"What does this all accomplish once you turn off the little box you call a computer? Do you lay in bed at night thinking of a come-back for the last poster who got under your skin?


Ten years from now, do you think that you will care what someone said on a messege board as you go about your routine? Would you think better of yourself because in your mind your cock strutted the best in the henhouse?


Get over it."


i think its more a matter of filling in a few boring moments during the day I personally have to be pretty bored to actually post/discuss anything though lol

I give this thread +1 for entertainment, I was complaining on IRC that there just wasn't enough hate to make this worth reading.. what a difference a night makes.

I agree with you Albion could and should have defended that night, I was one of the few that did.


Please note that when we did exactly the same thing to help the Mids and get them to come out and play (I was in the one leading ID in battle on the relic raid that dropped the Mid and the Hib power relics on the MPK at emain) we got nothing but flames from everyone in Hib over doing exactly what TNO has done. My beef isnt with giving Mids the relics. My beef is with "when you do it, you suck, when we do it, it is strategy". Double standard in its best form.


And Im sorry, I dont agree with you. Breaking excal doors HOPING Mids will come is no different.


I didnt bring it up to drag the discussions of whether Gheris's "punish the Hibs" was right or wrong. Nor to comment on TNO's tactis of taking the all Alb keeps and farming Albs.


I saw Gheris - one of the few players that actually tried to unite the realm of Albion, one who made every effort possible to get Albs fight together as one - get smacked as a worthless leader. Well, he isnt that.


He is a leader, he may have made mistakes. You tell me I am bringing something up from the ancient history of Lancelot. Well, the doors of Dagda got repaired and hit again and repaired once more countless of times since that raid. Right decision ? Wrong decision ? He Gheris is one of the people that DO things. And only people that DO things have a chance to make mistakes. All he did then was do what he thought would make Albion stronger. With NO leaders, you guys wouldnt have Albs to farm, coz no one would go out there.


Your nightly bashing of every keep in Alb, when Albion has no relics whatsoever, may well accomplish the same thing Gannd mentioned happened in Hib at the time. Yet I don't see you telling people to take keeps in Hib or Mid, coz that is where the relics are nowadays... Albs couldnt care less about keeps now, unless it is for DF.


Just apply the same standards to everything, even when it isn't convenient.

That is a pretty low assessment Deesh.


I gave it atleast 3.5 stars so far.


Although, the Linbergh post is gaining in stature

 

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Irony:

1)Playing a Massively Multi Online ROLE PLAYING Game and telling the people who ROLE PLAY to go to another server.


2)Blaming 1 man for bashing the doors when 250 did it. For those of you who are not familiar with alb chats in relic defense (ie Hibs and Mids), I have yet to be in one where most of the cg is not spamming for "teaching a lesson" after defending. Hell, when we retake a keep, many of the albs spam to "teach a lesson" to the realm we retook the keep from. [edit: The majority might not want to teach a lesson, but the majority of the ones that actually speak up do. The rest remain silent]


3) If one event one evening caused someone to quit the realm or the server, that person should not play games at all since someone has to lose. Isn't it really just the straw that broke the camel's back. There was probably a bunch of frustration leading up to it.


4) People knock Gheris' leading ability, but I have never seen anyone else lead an alb relic raid. Does it happen?


I have disagreed with strategy used during some raids, but I have never voiced the dissent because I really don't want to lead a huge raid in Albion. We have way too many @$$holes to try to keep order.


Could I do better? Maybe. Would anybody listen. Yeah, right. We are albs after all.

population differnces make the standards different imo- cant get around it just like there isnt much anyone can do about population. albs could lose half their population and still be ok. I prefer to look at the over all big picture on what makes this game fun for the most amount of people /shrug.


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"Isn't it really just the straw that broke the camel's back. There was probably a bunch of frustration leading up to it."


completely agree with this


and yes many hib cg's have also degraded into ppl wanting to "teach a lesson to alb like they did to us" - this is quickly taken care of though and those one or 2 ppl wanting to do this are tar and feathered