mythic to implement BG for RR1-4

shut up ahamade, you have nothing useful to contribute to this discussion as you're just a zergling idiot who instead of trying to compete 8v8, cries and runs his mouth on vn all day long.


stand - what you said makes no sense as we rarely see you twice in 30 minutes.

lol, this coming from a guy who couldn't cut it as a minstrel (THE BEST SPEED CLASS IN THE GAME, HIS WORDS) so ran to ez mode. twice.

<Foxflight> My bologna has a first name, its F-R-U-N-G-Y.

<Foxflight> My bologna has a second name, its F-R-U-N-G-Y.

Try again plz my arguement may be flawed, but simply saying "NAH UHH!! YOUR WRONG!!" isn't gonna cut it.


corrosive poop > malev


Aenus to come back to IRC and argue about hib w/ me

Stand, your calculations would be incorrect. The magnitude of advantages vary vastly from SOS/BOF vs. Savages and PBAE disease.


You also set up an advantage/hour ratio based on these false stats, which in itself is once again flawed. By stating an advantage/hour ratio, you are assuming that fights are happening one after another after another - without break in between. A combination of sitting on pad, buffing at PK's, and the time it takes for us to run out and find enemies opens that gap in your timered abilities. If the gap between fights was 0 like you stated, maybe there would be a shred of validity - but there isn't. Not only did you fail to state a magnitude in the advantages, but you also provided a false ratio.


You also can't make a clear mathematical comparision between PBAE 8 sec disease and SOS, because PBAE 8 sec disease also has a cure which takes roughly 2.5-3 seconds to cast. This can be cast as many times as mana permits, provided the healer type isn't being interrupted (which in itself causes yet another complication in a mathematical approach).


When I saw you try to throw math into your argument, I laughed irl because I figured you were joking. Then I read on and saw you made a serious attempt at it...


Edit: I compared the recast times on my advantages with yours. 8 seconds vs. 30 minutes & permanent vs. 30 minutes. Which is a valid comparison because we already agreed that Advantage = Advantage. -------------- Wrong, you agreed with yourself that an Advantage = Advantage.


Edit2: I can go on for hours and pick your argument apart, but I'll end it on this note. Basically you are saying an advantage = advantage, but the magnitudes of these vary as there is no real scale for this to be measured on. It is a matter of personal interpreation. Also, while SOS/BOF are popped - the 'savage magnitude' would decrease because if you WERE to measure a magnitude for a savage, it would be based on defenses/DPS offenses. BOF and SOS both shatter the offense factor of the Savage, not to mention a big contributor to a Savage's "defense" are the seers he's grouped with. These RA's would also indirectly impact the Savage defenses, thus reducing its magnitude once again. All in all, it's impossible to come up with a remotely rational scale to measure this on.


-Anty

Albs can't run a group with 3-4 Det tanks in the standard hib or mid setup:


Mid

2-3 Healers

1 Shaman

1 Skald

3-4 Tanks


Hib

1-2 Bard

2 Druid

1 Warden

3-4 Tanks


Compare Alb:

1 Minstrel

1 Sorc

1 Friar (resists, secondary healer)

2 Clerics

1 Pally

2 Tanks


I'm wonder if any Albs have tried to just ignore mezz totally and replace the Sorc with another Det tank (for the tank setup, obviously the body sorc+theurg groups are another story)

<Machin> #1 its comparing Apples and Cucumbers

<Machin> #2 its suppose to be a RA discussion.. unless im mistaken

<Machin> so you can only compare Ichor and PR vs. Sos and BoF

<Machin> everyone knows Albion has all the cream when it comes to the RA sundae

<Machin> Inversely, everyone knows Midgard has the best classes.

<Machin> So when do Classes outweigh RAs?

<Machin> ^^^^ The real question.


Once that question is answered... we will be righteous.

"lol, this coming from a guy who couldn't cut it as a minstrel (THE BEST SPEED CLASS IN THE GAME, HIS WORDS) so ran to ez mode. twice."


you're flaming me for moving from the most overpopulated realm to the least populated (at the time).


what the hell is wrong with you ?

Sounds like they want you back, Mal.