"Over the years, Decal has made this game. Without it, it would have died years ago."


I'm not so sure. First of all, Decal has not MADE this game. It made it better. Secondly, I'm not sure it would have died without Decal. Imagine for a minute if there had never been a Decal...at all. The player base would not know what a buff bot was, they would have continued to buff themselves never knowing an auto-buff program (and singing the praises of shorter buffing times and longer buffing durations), they would have continued to buy/sell/trade in the subway or old Arwic as we did back in the day, they would have continued to manually search all the loot items at each kill, etc., etc. Had we NEVER known the shortcuts made possible by Decal, most of us would have continued to play. Some people, maybe not as long, I don't know. But you don't know what you're missing if you've never seen it.

 

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True, and if we never made the nuclear bomb, we wouldn't of had the "Cold War", but we did, and once you do something, you can't "Put the Genie back in the bottle."

I swear.. the forever ignorance of thinking that there were no bots or macros before Decal amazes me to this day. How many non-Decal macros should have been published for this myth to go away?

 

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I know that Decal is a major issue in game to the players.

One thing that MT_GOURU is right on the money is that the wording from turbine is very much a change.

To think that any change was made to the CoC with out any one looking at it or have any input into what was being written is just pure poppy-cock.

With the amount of comments that turbine got from the preview that so many people would play with out there decal. Has certainly blind sided them from the real reason why AC lives.

Yes people play with out decal. Most do not. That is on all servers. Decal and the likes of programs that help out players in AC have allowed AC to live longer then it probably would have.

If you remember that the Preview was being listed by turbine as something other then a Beta test. Well a fair amount of us new that was not true and with some amount of compalints to Turbine they admitted they where doing a little spin-Doctoring of the wording and Ibn posted that preview=beta eventually.

As many of you who have read all of this post and have been paying attention to what is going on with decal on all the forums. You will have noticed that indeed there has been a change in there opinion of the viability of there game with out decal.

This was a pre emptive strike on there part to officially kill Decal to beleive anythign else is being a bit naive. The CoC could not hvae been changed with out someone from the developers and the managment staff of turbine aurhorizing it to start off with.

The change in the wording did indeed leave to the opinion of the person reading it or envoy reading it to decide what it is they where goign to do to inforce it or not inforce it. More likely it was a plan in motion to start banning or warning sometime in the future. With a statment that this change in the CoC was there since you installed Ac ToD.

As most people would not have read it as they installed it they would have been able to actually decide to ban you at anytime they chose too.


I do belive that Decal is the most important part to this game and i know that myself included will not play Ac with out a form of decal in game in the future.

You really must be caustious when decyphering what anyone from Turbine says as in most cases. They have never been up front with anythign they have done unless something forced them too.

This post has shown that some attention is being made.

If the negative responses did not appear in this post to start off with you more likely never have seen any comments from Ibn on rewording of what he belives the phrases have ment.

In case you havent noticed Turbine has never supported Decal in any form what so ever.

They have allowed it to live as it was a means to let there game live. Times are changing and not for the betterment of AC. For some reason or another they will not commit to admitting that Decal makes AC work for the majority in some fashion or another.

I think MT_GOURU did the right thing in being up front with all the players in telling you he was going to stop work on Decal till more detailed and properly worded statments from Turbine came forth.

I support all of the decal devs in there development in help with AC from day one. I think they have added more postivie influence in the game then anything. If they choose to be caustious or stop working on decal and move on to some other game i support them for that choice and thank tthem for years of fun. Turbine on the other hand has made some really poor judgment calls in the past this last snafu just shows that they really do never learn.

Ac lives because of its player base not because of the poor choices they make.Take away wthe player base i dont care how much money they have AC will die and i do belive that it is well on its way after the Launch of AC ToD.

Near all of this is my opinion and is not intended to flame or insite anyone. But seeing so many people have complained about the loss of decal or the fact it was dying something needed to be said from a non developer and from a player who sees the reasons why he plays the game.

I play the game to have fun though making supplies can be fun for the most part it is very time consuming. Id rather get on with playing the game then making stuff to do exactly that. I like to trade i also like to loot monsters with 50 monsters lying on the ground at my feet i can not loot them all before they decay. Nor can i ID the items in them in that time to decide if anything at all is worth picking up. I also can not remmeber where 500 plus dungeons are that i dont frequent enough nor can i figure out the best route a place i have never been or have not gone in a long time. Anyone that has hunted with me knows that i have a good idea where alot of things are but i dont know them all. I also cant see whats at the far reaches of my radar nor can i identify a plant chest or any other item on the ground near me if im not standing on top of it. True i can do all of these things by hand but then i have to decide whats more important just hunting for a few XP a hour or having fun looting and locating stuff.

Well enough from me and i know ill get flamed for one reason or another as most people who post on these type topics if they disagree with anyone other then the poster usually gets flamed by someone. I do not support Turbine for many of there choices in a game that i help pay for. Without player money not servers. How many people with multiple accunts will now cancel due to poor choices by Turbines.

The loss of player base has already begun.

Indeed Arch as u stated it is out there ppl use it and ppl love it do not take something away from the players that they use daily. Decal is not just a macro it is a tool that is made for AC to make our game time more enjoyable.

Pokerup2001,


Well said. However, better spacing will make your thoughts much more clear.

Dang critics always got to find something wrong with a post ROFL

Why not let decal die, if even just for a little while. I'm quite sure after a few mere months, Turbine will be banging on Gouru's door, begging him to bring it back.

 

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Over the years, Decal has made this game. Without it, it would have died years ago.


Due to all this crap over the CoC, I think it would be a nice guesture, on Turbines end, to lend a hand with getting decal back up and running.


Our Decal Devs are awsome and everyone should give them a round of applause!!


I hate idiots like you....Idiot...Decal has never made this game. It is Decal who has killed AC and no it would not have died years ago.


I hope they ban Decal so idiots like you will quit.

 

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I think it is dead he has never said he was going to continue to get it working he let the issue die a long way back in this thread.