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Yula_the_Mighty  1 star
Title: Lore Master
Posts: 235
Registered: 2004-1-25 06:01:16
_boneyard_ posted:

and ibn posted that here over an hour ago yula



This thread has been growing so quickly. People are having so much fun. A repeat after an hour is not a bad thing. Besides even the bunny is having fun hopping back and forth.
azraelthelost  1 star
Posts: 74
Registered: 2004-5-22 19:35:39
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Arch_Magi  3 stars
Title: The Lord of Chaos
Posts: 827
Registered: 2002-10-31 14:31:20
"MOD edit- Please read page 5 before posting!!! IBN has posted that the CoC was NOT supposed to change and will be changed back!!"


IMO, this changes NOTHING.


I'm pretty sure that G is waiting for it to officially to change before he makes a statement that further Decal Development is going to happen.


IMO, that makes further discussion very relavent. I for one won't play AC if there is no Decal, and a good portion of the plugins. From the look of the other 5 pages, others feel the same way.
ryu_masamune
Posts: 40
Registered: 2000-5-18 06:56:19
Let's clear a thing or two up here -


1) This is in no possible way blackmail or coersion except in the lucid imaginations of those that don't possess even a basic understanding of commerce. Gouru, like the rest of the Decal Devs and players PAY a monthly service charge to play AC. When the stipulations or restrictions of what you can and cannot do with that service are changed or become unagreeable to the customers, they have FULL right and authority to voice their displeasure, demand change in said stipulations and/or fire the service. The fact that Gouru and other Decal Devs have contributed their time and resources to make the service an even better value with no compensation coming to them does not change this fact. That leads us to the second thing....


2) Turbine cannot just walk in and 'take' Decal. They cannot just assume ownership of it. For one thing, it's Freeware and Open Source - if they took in a version of that open source and then banned all other instances, that would be grossly illegal unless they offered licsensure buyout from every dev that's ever been involved with the Decal project. While they can selectively and arbitrarily ban and 3rd party add-in they see fit, the legal fallout from taking an open source and making it proprietary technology would be a wide open class action lawsuit that would cost in the tens of millions (see AIX+Linux or SunSolaris v Microsoft).


What Turbine CAN do is ban Decal or TPA's like Decal. The return from such a decision, as they are no doubt aware, would be a drastic and immediate exodus of their subscriber base.


Aside from this - there's no good reason for Turbine to 'want' to take Decal away from the free labor that's developed it. Decal has added features and functionality to the game that has saved what is probably a very large chunk of time and money from Turbine. Moreover, these customizable enhancements to the game is strictly what has retained a large portion of their player base.

 

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HalfShaft
Posts: 2
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Over the years, Decal has made this game. Without it, it would have died years ago.


Due to all this crap over the CoC, I think it would be a nice guesture, on Turbines end, to lend a hand with getting decal back up and running.


Our Decal Devs are awsome and everyone should give them a round of applause!!
flawed3
Posts: 5
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hehe I know it'll never happen but I think it'd be nice if Turbine mailed all the Decal Dev's plane tickets and flew them all to Turbine HQ and AC Devs and Decal Devs worked side by side in house with full access to all utilities, code lists with memlocs and other AC devs who have worked so long on it practically know it by heart. That would pwn =P But like I said, not gonna happen. :/


I'll say one thing though, if it did happen, IBN I hope your reading, myself and no doubt all decal users would be in renewed Awe at the sense that Turbine is going out of their way, clearly above and beyond the call of duty, to do whatever it takes to please the community and be there for its customers. I know they still are right now, but this would be like a big neon sign where there are none. A warm mushy feeling =P
Danilo_Thann
Posts: 9
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I would suggest that Turbine hire the core Decal team but I suspect they could not afford them.
Broken_Bow_HG
Posts: 19
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LMAO
Vamp-Man
Posts: 4
Registered: 2002-11-14 16:01:08
"I just spoke to our project manager and our folks in legal. We confirmed that the change to the Code of Conduct was NOT intentional. Essentially it was a typo -- no one on the dev team or customer service saw it because the folks who wrote the new version didn't realize it was a change."


OMFG what a load of old crock.


"Many apologies for the confusion. However I must point out that this could've been resolved with a lot less grief if the entire discussion had been handled more calmly."


Let's not forget it would never have happened if you employed typists who could spell.


How do you type an entire document & claim it was a typo?


turbine will never change.

 

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Arch_Magi  3 stars
Title: The Lord of Chaos
Posts: 827
Registered: 2002-10-31 14:31:20
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Poll Question: If Gouru cancelled the Decal project ...

Total Votes: 35


Current Poll Results:

60% I'd quit AC for good. (21 votes)

14% I'd keep playing, but be looking for another game. (5 votes)

17% I'd jump for joy and keep playing. (6 votes)

0% I'd do a backflip and buy another account. (0 votes)

8% Take a bow -Gol- (3 votes)


(For those who don't know about Harvestgain polls, the "Gol option" is the same as "Who cares?"

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