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Fix for extremely slow launch time/crashes [Locked] |
LingMei Title: ACVault Staff
Lingie Bunny
Posts: 157
Registered: 2001-3-18 17:26:24
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
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Fix for extremely slow launch time/crashes |
Arch, DenAgent IS Decal.
Decal has an entire group of developers, and has its own site, (and always has) and its own forums. It is where all the developers can easily facilitate communication and improvements, plug-in developers can get information on the changes and issues, and to a lesser extent, end-users can go there to get assistance from Plug-In developers. This board is not the only one in existance about Decal and related plug-ins.
The fact that the application is managed and signed is a good thing, just believe that. In simple terms, it assures you that you are running the REAL "Verified" Decal, and not an imposter.
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Arch_Magi Title: The Lord of Chaos
Posts: 827
Registered: 2002-10-31 14:31:20
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
Subject:
Fix for extremely slow launch time/crashes |
Drakier posted:
move it to another board?
it STARTED on the ACDev board and was moved here. The REAL information is on the ACDev board.
Yeah, I read that thread and you know what? There is less information there about "why" and "what DenAgent is".
LingMei posted:
Arch, DenAgent IS Decal.
Actually after doing some looking, I see another post that says that DenAgent "isn't Decal", hence even more confusion and the need for a "straight answer".
http://forums.ac.turbine.com/showpost.php?p=6641&postcount=21
Well that would be true if the server had the code for the leveling aid, or if decal worked as some sort of proxy client *which it doesn't* but then again if your client lost con to the server dont you think decal did too? Anyway yes denagent runns in th system tray when the client isnt running, but you know what....denagent isnt decal!!! denagent is just a control and loader app for the actualy decal plugin. It detects the presense of the client, and loads to approprate plugins to do their jobs, if the cleint isnt running, ie has crashed, got dissconected or blown up, decal isnt doing anything...nothing at all, except waiting for the client to startup and login again...
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Chazcon Title: FOR THE VITAE!
Posts: 524
Registered: 2001-12-11 13:57:12
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
Subject:
Fix for extremely slow launch time/crashes |
Arch, at this point in a bar on Friday night, I would drag you out kicking and screaming before you got us all killed.
You'd thank me for it later
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Simply Red tells you, "I am SO not recovering your body!"
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Date Posted:
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Subject:
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DenAgent is not "Decal".
DenAgent is the configuration tool and enabler of decal. It's just the user interface outside of the game. It plays a minor role in injection, but after that the real decal takes over.
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LingMei Title: ACVault Staff
Lingie Bunny
Posts: 157
Registered: 2001-3-18 17:26:24
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
Subject:
Fix for extremely slow launch time/crashes |
DenAgent = Decal (Interface)
Decal = DenAgent
(For the end user, it is the same thing. When you click on DenAgent, the options there are options for Decal, not for plug-ins. Paradox is right, but for simple terms and simple explanations, and for most end-users, it is much easier to understand it as the same thing.)
Think of it as just the name of the icon you click to bring up the "Decal Window" on your desktop.
Decal itself is a FRAMEWORK only, and not a plug-in. If all you have installed is Decal, you will not have any additional features in Asheron's Call.
Plug-ins are designed to work with Decal (DenAgent), using its framework, and with that framework, they give the player additional capabilities.
Think of it like a car. Decal is the metal frame. With just that, you're not going anywhere, ever. Then you get an Engine, and a Transmission, and Brakes, and Electric System, etc. etc. etc. Each one of those (plug-ins) does something different, but they all require you have your metal frame to work.
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Arch_Magi Title: The Lord of Chaos
Posts: 827
Registered: 2002-10-31 14:31:20
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
Subject:
Fix for extremely slow launch time/crashes |
Chazcon posted:
Arch, at this point in a bar on Friday night, I would drag you out kicking and screaming before you got us all killed.
You'd thank me for it later 
Actually, you're right. I think I'm going to uninstall Decal, all the plugins, and remove Asheron's Call from all but one of my PCs (for Vault Staff work), go to the /marketplace and drop all my loot off all but 1 of my accounts and move on to Vanguard and other things.
Enjoy.
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Chazcon Title: FOR THE VITAE!
Posts: 524
Registered: 2001-12-11 13:57:12
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
Subject:
Fix for extremely slow launch time/crashes |
CRAP I gotta get to the Marketplace NOW!
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Chazcon - Aluvian swordsman
You say, "FOR THE VITAE!"
Ru tells you, "CHAZ!"
Simply Red tells you, "I am SO not recovering your body!"
-- Good times.
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LingMei Title: ACVault Staff
Lingie Bunny
Posts: 157
Registered: 2001-3-18 17:26:24
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
Subject:
Fix for extremely slow launch time/crashes |
Arch_Magi posted:
LingMei posted:
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Arch, DenAgent IS Decal.
Actually after doing some looking, I see another post that says that DenAgent "isn't Decal", hence even more confusion and the need for a "straight answer".
http://forums.ac.turbine.com/showpost.php?p=6641&postcount=21denagent isnt decal!!! denagent is just a control and loader app for the actualy decal plugin. It detects the presense of the client, and loads to approprate plugins to do their jobs, if the cleint isnt running, ie has crashed, got dissconected or blown up, decal isnt doing anything...nothing at all, except waiting for the client to startup and login again...
*sigh*
I don't know anything about programming, and I was just trying to use terms that would make it simple to understand, trying to be helpful. Sorry I tried. I guess you want to know a whole lot more about "DenAgent" than I can tell you. There are Decal tutorials and plug-in tutorials out there for those who really want to know how it works.
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Arch_Magi Title: The Lord of Chaos
Posts: 827
Registered: 2002-10-31 14:31:20
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
Subject:
Fix for extremely slow launch time/crashes |
LingMei posted:
I don't know anything about programming, and I was just trying to use terms that would make it simple to understand, trying to be helpful. Sorry I tried. I guess you want to know a whole lot more about "DenAgent" than I can tell you. There are Decal tutorials and plug-in tutorials out there for those who really want to know how it works.
I'm not questioning you, or busting on you. I'm confused as to what the "correct answer is", while I've been trying to "Google for the answer" (something I've always had an issue with, because of EXACTLY things like this). Some people say one thing, some people say another, and with as much as Decal has changed from 2.0 to 3.0, it may or may not be right.
Hence why I ask questions, hoping that someone in an official capacity will answer them. Oh well, the point is moot.
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denagent is the user-configurable part of decal. It is what allows the user to interact with the decal components out of game. Things such as Network Filters and Services wouldn't do so well on an in-game editor because of the way Decal works. Not to meantion we have to have a way to update decal and provide diagnostics, etc.
It is also the part that injects decal into the game. It watche windows messages for certain events, and then stuffs decal into the AC process. DenAgent is the magic that makes it all work. Oh.. and it eats babies.
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