My issue is that I'm just trying to ask a simple question to learn something and people are jumping down my back left and right for asking an obvious question. The code was intentionally put in there (code that goes out and searches for another web site to report home to "momma" just doesn't magically appear) and I am wondering why it was done so. I didn't know if it was some sort of spyware for a program that I don't use, it had a legitimate purpose, it was used in conjuction with the ability of Decal to remotely disable plugins that you guys (or the Application Authors) don't want, or whatever. Excuse me for asking questions.


What is your issue?





Yeah, and went the Decal Devs keep making it sound as if the people who are asking simple questions as to "why" are all paranoid, it tends to feed that paranoia. Sometimes a simple answer without the "Christmas time" or "What is your issue" comments will stop that sort of thing.

Actually, it does magically appear when you tell Visual Studio to sign a managed executable with a certificate. I thought you were a developer?

 

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Rather rudimentary reading ability would have told you from my post that WINDOWS, not decal is checking the cert.

I am a Developer, and I have never had a single thing in Visial Studio pop up and report back to insanity-inc.org in my 16+ years of programming.

Arch-Magi quote since VN doesn't let non-insiders do quotes: Yeah, and went the Decal Devs keep making it sound as if the people who are asking simple questions as to "why" are all paranoid, it tends to feed that paranoia. Sometimes a simple answer without the "Christmas time" or "What is your issue" comments will stop that sort of thing.


I did that before you even posted. Amazing.

Again, try reading the damn thread.

 

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Arch-MAgi: I DID answer your question.. paradox answered your question.. HAZ answered your question.. it seems you're the only one still completely confused. You keep asking the same thing over and over again. And you keep getting the same response.

Clearly you haven't signed a managed executable with a certificate then. Go do it, so you can put your foot in mouth and shut up already.

 

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here, let me try to be a mediator (new job for me):


The slobbering masses don't understand why Decal is so complicated now - managed app? No idea what that means. All they know is that it connects to somewhere each time you start up (spooky, phear the unknown - hey isn't that what viruses do?), and it's slow as molasses north of Crater Village since the last release...they just want it fast and simple. Typical end-users, who can blame them?


But the Decal devs are thinking, -hey- Decal was never meant to be written, developed, and supported for the average player - who has a hard time buying comps from a vendor, ferchrissakes. Decal started out in uber-geek-land, and filtered down and out to everybody by word of mouth. Now the devs see miles and miles of stupid questions on any forum related to Decal or plugins, and the worst part is the expectation that everyone has, that Decal should work perfectly every time it's launched, and before each new release, should be burned-in and beta tested by half the population of the US. heck, the current version of Decal is still in an ALPHA state!


The devs didn't need to release Decal 3.0 to the public, and I would imagine only did so in order to have problems identified. better to test it on 1000 users systems than on 10 dev's systems. It's all for the good of Decal, really.


Here's a little surprise (are you sitting down?): The Decal devs want Decal to install smoothly, launch quickly everytime, never cause lag, never crash even if the user is running a crappy plugin, never cause lag, and generally be a sweet, perfect piece of software that does really cool things for a game we all love and have enjoyed for years.

 

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You're right, I haven't PUT IN THE CODE (which you said wasn't put in) to checked for a certificate in my program, because I find they cause more problems than they solve.


Why aren't the REST of the Decal programs and applications using them if they are so needed?


The bottome line is this. Most of the apps out there AREN'T signed. I was just wondering why this one was, then YOU jump down my throat for asking questions.


"Well excuuuuusseee me!" - Steve Martin

If you want to know WHY DenAgent is signed, it's because it seemed like a good idea at the time. In the future, I would suggest asking the actual question you would like to know the answer to, instead of asking a different question and hoping I can read your mind.


There is no code that was added to DenAgent for checking the cert.

 

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