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Drakier  4 stars
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ok.. let me break this down.


1) DenAgent has managed components which are signed with a certificate to ensure integrity.


2) WINDOWS is what is checking the certificate, not Decal, not DenAgent, not anything else. WINDOWS sees that DenAgent is a managed application and it is signed with a certificate, so it is checking the certificate to see if it is valid or has expired (much the same way as SSL certificates are checked when you go to an HTTPS site).


3) We didn't ADD code in to check this stuff, as it is PART of windows, and the Security Services that are installed. WINDOWS is the one checking the cert. All we did was sign the application with the certificate.


http://technet2.microsoft.com/WindowsServer/en/Library/b6782aa5-94da-4544-af6e-600aea60d6051033.mspx?mfr=true
Arch_Magi  3 stars
Title: The Lord of Chaos
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Registered: 2002-10-31 14:31:20
Hazridi posted:

If you want to know WHY DenAgent is signed, it's because it seemed like a good idea at the time. In the future, I would suggest asking the actual question you would like to know the answer to, instead of asking a different question and hoping I can read your mind.



You mean like my FIRST question?


Arch_Magi posted:

coasty posted:

Anyway, why is Decal trying to connect to insanity.org at start up, what's at insanity.org that Decal needs to look at???



That is what I wanna know.


More to the point ... what, if any, information is being passed back to that server for possible data collection?



To which Para ANSWERED the question without some flippant comment.


Then I asked more questions, then I get the "tag team" from you and Drak.
Maddy_ACEDL  3 stars
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<< More to the point ... what, if any, information is being passed back to that server for possible data collection? >>


None it sounds like.


And thanks Haz and Drakier for clarifying things up.

 

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Arch_Magi  3 stars
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Maddy_ACEDL posted:

<< More to the point ... what, if any, information is being passed back to that server for possible data collection? >>


None it sounds like.



Exactly, that was my main concern, that no additional information was being gathered.


Not only for my own interest, but because I know that "pishing" is on everyones mind and some people are too afraid to ask the questions that are on their minds, for fear of either looking like a fool or because people will flame them.
Drakier  4 stars
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I said it in one of my first replies..


it is contacting the server (and THAT server) to verify the certificate. That is all. Where in there can it even be implied or assumed that ANY other data transmission is going on? Just because I didn't explicitly say it wasn't. And if you would have read the TECHNICAL thread relating to this on the ACDev forums, you would have seen Packet Dumps and Ethereal traces showing the data that is being sent back and forth, and you wouldn't have even needed to ask.. not that you needed to anyway because I thought that our answers were pretty clear and not-needing more clarification.. obviously you were not able to understand those posts initially so you felt you had to keep posting.
Arch_Magi  3 stars
Title: The Lord of Chaos
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No need to move it to another board, after all, that is why IGN set up this board.


BTW, what exactly does DenAgent do?
-paradoxlost-  1 star
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It eats babies


(ever looked at the properties for the decal icon on your desktop?)
Arch_Magi  3 stars
Title: The Lord of Chaos
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Registered: 2002-10-31 14:31:20
-paradoxlost- posted:

It eats babies


(ever looked at the properties for the decal icon on your desktop?)



Decal isn't installed on my work machine, where I am now.


Besides, you could have most likely answered the question in the same amount of letters that it took you to not asnwer it.


Drakier  4 stars
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move it to another board?


it STARTED on the ACDev board and was moved here. The REAL information is on the ACDev board.
Chazcon  3 stars
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Registered: 2001-12-11 13:57:12
umm...I just thought I was being helpful.

 

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