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anyone look at it this way?


Most are prolly not pissed off, at the loss of El Tank ... it's the reasoning behind it, that irks people.


I see it as this ... How is the best way to "hurt" Turbine? Hurt the subscribers, that pay them. Yet most of the subscribers, deserve nothing of the sort.


/e shrugs


oh well, best wishes to you Elgar.

 

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MarcoSez....a username created today, with two posts, both to try and bash people. Come back with your real board name before I even consider giving a rat's ass what you think.


EDIT...sorry it was created very early on the 22nd, the rest of the message still stands.

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I liked AC2 in the end. When it was pulled, I shrugged and moved on. I didn't hate Turbine for it. They gave the equivalent of 2 weeks notice. Yes, it would have been nice to get 30 days notice instead of 2 weeks, but hey, 2 weeks is what we got.


I liked ELtank. It's passing makes me feel like shrugging it off and moving on to something else. However, I have nothing good to say about it's author anymore. He has shown a pattern of unprofessional and childish behavior toward the users of his product. Being free does not mean it's okay to jerk your users around although some folks seem to think that is what using a free product means. To me, free means only that you have no right to complain about it's quality or it's existence. Again, it's fine that he has decided to not continue it. However the manner in which he has done it leaves me with utter contempt for him.


I suspect he hopes everyone gets mad at Turbine for costing him a few dollars. No, unlike Mr. Lightfoot, they at least handled things professionally in their little mistake. If Mr. Lightfoot is so concerned over the alleged 3 dollars then he can take them to court and get it back along with the cost of prosecuting them (so no need to complain about the cost of pursuing such action if he prevails). I'm sure it would never get to court and Turbine would cough up a few dollars to him and have a good laugh.


No Mr. Lightfoot has been itching to wield his supposed power over Turbine. Years ago, it may have even worked. But today there are only a handful of severely addicted fans left in this game. They are not going anywhere for the most part until Turbine pulls the plug. There was no big evacuation when the ninja's presented themselves as Mr. Lightfoot predicted. People adjusted and many just moved to other places. There will be no big exit due to the loss of Tank. In 6 mos it will sit alongside 6th Sense and Bandit Sight and Magellan and Robochef, among others, as something great that came and went. But because of his manner of dealing with the situation, I predict Mr. Lightfoots name will be held in infamy.


One of the great benefits to a developer doing this sort of thing is the recognition one gains in the software world. It can translate to great opportunities when times might otherwise be tough. I wonder now, if Mr. Lightfoot has destroyed any capital he may have built up over the years of hard work he put in to his application.


I would have liked to been able to say, thanks and farewell. I'll just leave it at thanks.

Lol If I had wanted to 'use my power' over Turbine it would have been done long ago, while ELTank was still at it's height, and all other combat plugins were pay to use.


As for Turbine handling their mistake professionally, So wrong. They never sorted it out. They never even replied to my emails. They totally ignored the matter. Perhaps you call that 'being professional'? I sure don't.

They have made this exact same 'mistake' over and over in the past. This was the only time it had affected me and I'm not even a subscriber. That's definately NOT professional.

I've been absent from AC and the plug-in scene since I closed my accounts. I have no interest in Turbine or any of their games. I no longer trust them as a company and would never trust them with CC details ever again.


I gave players nine weeks (?) notice that ELTank may someday break, and it would not be revived. I took ELTank auths down close to (one day away) a patch day. If Turbine had even bothered to reply to the email address THEY GAVE to deal with these issues then the auth servers would likely still be up. Turbine totally ignored the situation, as if they don't care. Therefore none of my work and effort will go towards improving and aiding them with their game.

I truly hate that I am not taking my own advice here, but everyone, please stop posting - he simply doesn't deserve the attention.

 

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Hey ElgarL, how about responding to the comments that you have acted very childish throughout this whole matter.

It think its great you guys are going off on him we he gave you years of support for a game you played with out ever asking for irl cash.


Why dont you go post on the turbine boards about how mad about eltank getting the axe and them not putting something like it into the client or maybe the players there that did nothing but talk [MOD-Edit] to him because they feel all players MUST play like they do.


When it comes down to it, its his plug in he made and he owes you nothing in fact if anything everyone that used it owes him something for the years he updated it.


Also the anti ucmers you do understand that para hangs out with the ac dev team right? He also runs the only real ucming macro and after that post on the turbine boards about how lt is moving towards being a plug in that follows the rules of ac we all find out that the admin alarms are still in it and only him and his "friends" have access to it.

 

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Churi,


These post are exactly why this boards exist. We are discussing stuff relevant to an AC utility. Rather than ask others not to post, why don't you ask yourself to stop opening up this thread and reading....and then posting!


Not really trying to come down on you but you're spending so much effort trying to control other people's actions when you simply can change your own and your problem will go away.


Elgar is a "public figure" in the AC world. When public figures make mistakes, the solution is not to close ones eyes and pretend they don't exist as you are advocating. The better solution is for the public to strongly speak out let that and other public figures know that their behavior is not acceptable.


Once it gets old and has been run in the ground, then it's up to the mods to step in and say, "enough", and close the threads. This is still fresh and Elgar and his supporters and his detractors have been fairly civil in expressing themselves. I see that as a good exchange.