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Majielle  1 star
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Registered: 2004-5-23 12:27:50
<<And why? Only argument I could see for this is just one place to download form, but how often do you need to download a plugin and how much effort does that take?>>


I did answer that question.


I wanted ONE plugin to minimize my exposure to viruses, hackings, key loggers, etc. By utilizing ONE plugin, with ONE maker.. I didn't have to concern myself with who was making the plugin, what kind of backdoor access to my computer did they program in for themselves and other various paranoid notions that I get when I am connected to the internet.


It doesn't matter if my reason is logical to you or anyone else. It was my reason for wanting only ONE plugin.


It was convenient having only one program to update, download etc.. but that had nothing to do with my reason for wanting one.


Frankly, I don't trust those kids out there making the plugins (and I can say kids because I'm over 50).


And it isn't an "argument", it is my reason.


And if I was still playing the game today, I would have only one plugin and when that plugin was gone, so would I.


I wouldn't play AC without Eltank. Period.

 

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Duri_Gallant  1 star
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Yeah, kids *shake head* darn little buggers! I don't trust 'em either.


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Churi-ya  2 stars
Posts: 278
Registered: 2002-7-9 03:42:57
I was done with this post - then I had to come back and revisit it. Better?


There isn't anything better out there than El Tank.


One plug-in, everything covered. Everything.

 

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Maddy_ACEDL  3 stars
Posts: 785
Registered: 2000-2-23 15:06:37
<< I wanted ONE plugin to minimize my exposure to viruses, hackings, key loggers, etc. By utilizing ONE plugin, with ONE maker.. >>


Irrational fear in my book, download from known sources and nothign to worry about. Just my opinion.


<< I wouldn't play AC without Eltank. Period. >>


Buh-bye

 

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Migy_AC  1 star
Title: Speaker of Fluent Typo
Posts: 62
Registered: 2002-1-12 22:56:32
*sigh* ( disclaimer- this is a broad based reply not intended to be to any 1 person )


Fact- there are several ways you can UCM.

Fact- the only way to do it with ElTank is to download, install and run something else that defeats the timer.

Fact- this was apost about Eltanks future


Opinion- Eltank made it very easy to have all the utilities I needed in one easy install.


Opinion/Editorial- I am getting so sick of everytime someone says they are upset, may leave, etc etc someone coming along and saying bye bye.


I have a neat idea...


If you do not like how other people play, then you quit. How does that sound?


So long as people are staying within the boundries set by Turbine, it is not anyone elses concern how the game is being played.


So what if I use eltank, or lifetank, or warbot, or whatever. It is not your concern, nor is it your place to try and tell me what I can and can't do.


So long as im at the kb and able to see and respond to an Envoy, I am within my rights.


Had it not been for several utilities that have come along over the years, I would have been long gone from this game.


Yeah yeah, I know... BYE BYE ya dont need me either, right?

 

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AC players are very very...stubborn and opinionated in a way that they never budge. It's part of the reason why AC is the way it is today I think. Just an observation, don't kill me please.
Migy_AC  1 star
Title: Speaker of Fluent Typo
Posts: 62
Registered: 2002-1-12 22:56:32
<AC players are very very...stubborn and opinionated in a way that they never budge. It's part of the reason why AC is the way it is today I think. Just an observation, don't kill me please. grin >


Lol. I think its people in general, not just AC players. Now wheres my railgun? ;P

 

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Maddy_ACEDL  3 stars
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Registered: 2000-2-23 15:06:37
<< So what if I use eltank, or lifetank, or warbot, or whatever. It is not your concern, nor is it your place to try and tell me what I can and can't do. >>


I for one have never told you what you can or can not used, but have pointed out alternatives, especially to those doing the "woo is me, El Tank is soon to be no more".


As long as someone isn't breaking the rules set by Turbine, I really don't care what they do in game.

 

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Drakier  4 stars
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As long as someone isn't breaking the rules OR directly impacting MY gameplay experience, I don't have a problem either.


My problems come because people who generally are impacting my gameplay experience are also breaking rules through either UCM, or general annoyance issues.


That being said.. I believe there are some things that are legitimately bad for the game.. currently against Turbine's rules or not... and I have my own opinions on that.. unfortunately, there isn't a lot I can personally do about it but inform people, complain, and just try to be heard.


Combat Macroing is one of those things, and I genuinely believe that the ONLY reason that Turbine doesn't out-right disallow ACM as well as UCM is because they can't legally detect and prove it. They cannot prove that someone is ACMing, although they CAN prove that someone is UCMing (based on testing). I also believe that Combat Macroing hurt the game in a way that can never be fixed. Such is life.
Migy_AC  1 star
Title: Speaker of Fluent Typo
Posts: 62
Registered: 2002-1-12 22:56:32
Maddy, my post was not directly to you.

It was a general responce to many posts. I hope you didn't take it personally.

I've just seen too many " buh-bye " posts recently and it irked me.


I feel that if people actually care about AC they won't be encouraging people to leave, even if their playstyle is one not approved of by the mortal majority.


Drak, I know you are right on many points.

I do use combat proggies quite a bit myself, but i do not UCM. My characters are too valuable to me to lose them to a ban.

I'd rather unsub and leave AC than have my accounts prema'd for UCM.


And yes CM did hurt the game in a way that can't be fixed, as did the XP chains, and other things. Its too late to change those, hopefully Turbine can learn from those mistakes and keep from repeating them in future games.


The only way they can "fix" those mistakes in AC would be to open a world that 3rd party proggies are prohibited, and to work with you Decal devs to have a way Decal can be deactivated on that world. It wont stop some people, but it will stop the masses.


The existing worlds are already borked, and taking away ACM would , in my opinion, be a fatal mistake at this point.

 

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