What I think people fail to realize is that there are a number of plugins out there that do the same thing El Tank does and even better. The only thing that is not being replaced is the auto combat feature which I am happy to see go.


Maj,


In the past BS2 and 6th Sense have always been a lot better than El Tank at finding things. Even though they are discontinued, Alinco and FindIt both do a decent job at replacing them. Also, AgentZ does a much better job than El Tank at giving stats and xp per hour. Buff Me does a better job at buffing.


I understand El Tank may have been the program that you remember as keeping you in this game but you are really not loosing much unless you are a UCM'r.


~Duri

Duri, be careful before you make sweeping statements like that. Although directed toward one poster, it can be implied that you are directing that statement to anyone who uses El Tank ... and I know that is simply not true. Many of us DO use the combat features, NOT to UCM, but to relieve the tedium on our mages of the serious keying necessary to fight. Many of us have bad wrists, and this feature helps us to enjoy playing our mages - not UCM. And to be able to UCM with Tank, you must circumvent the 5 minute timer Elgar put in. I wish one of the alternate plugins you mention would tell you if allegiance members were in the area - that's one feature of Tank I really like too. The bottom line here is that Elgar is choosing not to support the program when Decal breaks it for good. He created it, it is his "baby", he has the right to take the stand he is. It is unfortunate that so many of us have come to rely on it (I play on dialup and accept the increased lag with Tank running because of the help it gives me) and will have to do without it ... but that is his decision, and his right to make it. Although I will not quit AC over it, I most likely will have to either quit playing my mages, or severely restrict the time I can play them. So be it ...

 

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And I dare say the majority of those were plugins that someone got someone's friend that wrote a private plugin for someone else.

 

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Maj,


In the past BS2 and 6th Sense have always been a lot better than El Tank at finding things. Even though they are discontinued, Alinco and FindIt both do a decent job at replacing them. Also, AgentZ does a much better job than El Tank at giving stats and xp per hour. Buff Me does a better job at buffing.

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Duri, No offense, but you obviously either did not read my post, or you failed to comprehend what I said.


I didn't want BETTER plugins. I wanted ONE plugin that did it ALL.


Go back up there and read what I said again.


I have never combat macroed.

 

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<< I didn't want BETTER plugins. I wanted ONE plugin that did it ALL. >>


And why? Only argument I could see for this is just one place to download form, but how often do you need to download a plugin and how much effort does that take?

 

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Ok I need...


Buffing plugin- profiles prefered

Route finder- how to get from a-b fastest. Portals etc within certian radius

UST

Loot Id'er/ loot based on preset profiles

Smartcast- one that does some type of profiles. IE VoD=yeild, vulrn, fester Dires=vulrn

Buffbot plugin- one I turn on, and not have to comb through XML files to customize, add profiles etc.

ACM proggie- not neccessary, but helps. I work with my hands and at times not only are they very sore, but also cut up.

Add that to tendonitis in my right shoulder. ( yeah I know - don't play right ? but wife works nites, and it keeps me outta trouble othewise)


or instead of ACM proggie, one that does voice. "Target next, next, lock, vulrn, war,war, heal, mana, stam, war. Loot next."


Oh, and one stop for support/updates would be nice too.


ELtank does pretty much everything I need, though if the gurus here can give me viable alternatives,


viable= wont crash client, plays nice with other plugins


I'd be happy .


Right about now I'm kicking myself.......... as a freshman in HS I went to a voc/tech. When I went through buisness tech as an exploritory, I figgured out how to get into other users files. Another kid saw me and asked me to show him.


He then went and started deleting files, and otherwise making a mess of things. The school was able to trace it to our class, but since we didnt ahve assigned machines, they couldn't trace it further.


The whole class was going to be punished unless the offender or offenders stepped foward. Since I didn't do any damage I leaned on Jason to step foward, and he did. He got a small slap on the wrist, and then was moved into the computer shop. Where he learned data entry and also programming.


I went on to electronics shop where I learned 95% anolog electronics. We touched on digital but only a little bit, not enough to really matter though.


He can program, I can build a strobe light. lol


Hindsight is 20/20. Had I stepped up I would have gotten the blame, and the credit, and would have at least gotten a chance in the computer lab. It was one of my top choices, but I never got to try it as a freshman, and at the end of the year you had to pick from the shops you did trials in, and were accepted to.

 

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<< Buffing plugin- profiles prefered

Route finder- how to get from a-b fastest. Portals etc within certian radius

UST

Loot Id'er/ loot based on preset profiles

Smartcast- one that does some type of profiles. IE VoD=yeild, vulrn, fester Dires=vulrn

Buffbot plugin->>


Buffing plugin - Alinco, Buffme, and perhaps Einstein It!.

Route Finder - GoArrow

Loot ID'er, - Find It! (can UST for you via DHS) , Alinco

Smartcast - Einstein It!, Smartcaster

Buffbot - Castaway, Einstein It!

 

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thanks Maddy.


I'd use castaway for my bot when I run it 'cept I'm too lazy to go through and edit the scripts.


I used to have a working one from when I ran a bot on HG but have no idea what I did with it. Wasn't one I edited though, it was one from a clanmate, so that all the bots used the exact same commands and didn't confuse people.


I think the files are on my dead HP machine, maybe later I'll yank the HD and toss it into this system and see if I can find them.

 

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<< I'd use castaway for my bot when I run it 'cept I'm too lazy to go through and edit the scripts. >>


Unless you want to customize things, things should work as is just fine. If you have ideas for alternative commands for buffing, let me know and if I agree I'll add them to the default files.

 

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"Duri, be careful before you make sweeping statements like that. -Ashake"


Ashake,


For the record I was NOT implying that everyone who uses El Tank is a UCM. My point is that it is the only plugin that has the ability to do that, that I know of. I understand there are a number of players with RSI (Repetitive Stress Injuries) or other disabilities that use it and never UCM. However, it would be hard for me to believe that the majority of users use El Tank for that reason.


Majielle,


I understand what you are saying. My point is that you are really not loosing many of the features of El Tank but just the ability of having it in one plugin.


~Duri