We are going to get polished old content - because players asked for it. Obviously it is no interest to you. But then again, Turbine is not doing it for you. Same issue that Arch has with the Disco Hall. He wanted something else...


I do not see how a two or three month cycle helps. We get the same amount of content. We get all of it on the second or third month and nothing on the off month.


Is what you are looking for is one big quest every month or two and nothing else?

turbine does listen to its players. i asked for ninjas and i got them 8).. just not where i wanted them tho.. its all my fault

We are getting polished old content because theres no sizable dev team to add new. It's not Frelorns fault, he's just an underling who has to do what he's told and make do with what he's given.

Sorry El, when turbine asked what old dungeons needed updating, I brought up the Drudge disco.


I miss it from not only end of beta, but from when I was a +Sent too.


You know, an arguement could be put forth about how the Viamontians aren't new content either. They were an old race, scrapped from the early dev days. http://www.thejackcat.com/AC/Travel/maps/BetaMap.htm


I know the disco isn't new, but to alot of people it is, and to some of us oldtimers, it's a reconnection to an AC gone by.

Sorta like how I still go and hit Mountain Halls when im in the area. It was THE place to go level once you were over 30ish, back in the day.


In the circle of friends I had back then it went something like The pit, Mt Niap. then Mountain halls to p/l though I digress.


I for one will be happy to see its return, even if it is only for the festival season.

 

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Have you ever thought it's because I don't want it to help whiney little ungrateful asses like you? I code, provide and support a plugin for 5+ years. I host a website and provide daily technical support for all that time, paying the costs out of my own pocket. Heck I even pay for and provide the hardware that hosts the forums.


I do all this for no profit and you come here whining because you think I owe you something? Do you also whine like that when your parents don't let you stay out late? You seriously need to stop thinking of yourself for once. It will come back and bite you on your ass one day.


The real reason I don't release the source code is because I no longer support Turbine. Turbine have been taking increased subscription fee's for a long time now, without providing a reasonable level of support and content. We have less devs and less support than we did before the price hike. We pay more, but get less in return. If I keep maintaining ELTank or release the source then I'm still supporting Turbine.

They can't provide a decent sized Dev team or even reliable Envoys, I'll not support them when all they are doing is milking this game and ignoring their playerbase.

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WELL WORTH REPEATING! BRAVO, El.

 

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Majielle: there were many plugins which did everything that ELTank did (minus the combat macroing) better than ELTank.


So the statement that you used ELTank for everything BUT the Combat Macro seems wierd.. considering the alternatives.


The only reason I know of people using ELTank specifically is for the combat features.


Now those plugins aren't all around anymore, so trying to find alternatives for some of the components may be difficult for now.. but in the past, there were many better options.

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Let me try to answer that for you. It may well seem weird to you. I trust Elgar. In all my years of playing AC, I read reports of hacking, key loggers and all the horror stories that go along with it. I didn't want multiple programs by multiple people who I don't know. (not that I know Elgar, but I feel as I do based on what I have seen him say). To be honest, if it wasn't necessary to run Eltank, I wouldn't have put DECAL on my machine. My daughter had used other "plugins" on her computer and she told me about them, but I really didn't want all the different ones. I wanted a ONE PROGRAM DOES IT ALL and I found that in Eltank.


But my main reason was that I totally trusted Elgar and felt there would be no way he would install malicious software on my machine with his program. I didn't want to deal with numerous unknowns.


For me, better plugins weren't my goal.. ONE plugin that did it all.. was my goal.


BTW, I never cared anything about xp or levels. I hunted scarecrows and did quests. Why on earth would I UCM scarecrows?

 

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Sure it didn't do some things in as much detail as more dedicated plugins (like Banditsight), but most players didn't want overly complex plugins. They wanted to remove the more mundane tasks via the simplest method.


Thats how I undertand it. It's what I wrote it for, and it seemed to catch on.

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I use ElTank but it's loss with not cause me to quit the game. 85% of the people will leave AC? What a joke. I doubt if 85% of the population uses Eltank.

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LOL! I don't believe that you KNOW 85% of the AC population. And while we are talking percentages here, what was the player base numbers 4 years ago? 3 years ago? 2 years ago? and now?


The lack of Eltank hasn't caused me to quit. The lack of any quality patches has caused me to quit. I have logged in each patch hoping for something that wasn't for the HIGH levels only (PS. I never macroed, so wasn't real up there in xp and levels), only to be disappointed again and again.


Well, I have better ways to spend my $25.00 a month and I certainly don't need to pay to be bored.


I gave away everything I had and I left.


But, I always get a kick out of reading those players that say they don't care if players leave, in fact they are happy that players leave. LOL. I wonder who they think pays for the game enhancements, devs, etc? I guess they aren't aware that AC is suppose to be a money MAKING proposition for Turbine.

 

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Duri.. That is a very interesting statement (especially the last part). Because the FACT is, Eltank is the ONLY reason I have still been playing AC for the last few years.


Now I have no idea what Elgar believes to be true. But, I'm telling you.. that's TRUE for me.

 

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I stubbornly refused, adamantly, to use Decal, but eventually I got tired, dead bone tired, weary, bored and frustrated with endlessly looking for, and subsequently not finding that damn Ralirae character.


Then El Track opened a new world of ease of play for me.


And I found that elusive Aun and got my skill credit thank you very much.

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WOW! That was exactly how I was. I remember a patron telling me about buffing (I didn't like buffing because it was boring, I couldn't keep track of what I had buffed already, it was tedious). My patron kept telling me about Decal and Eltank, I just pooh poohed him and said, I don't need to buff. Well, I finally broke down and tried Eltank and I never went out without buffing again. Sometimes, I would just be standing there buffing.. I just enjoyed watching my character buff.


And I totally agree about finding things. Anyone who knew me in game knows that "THINGS" were my thing. Eltank helped me find those scarecrows, the plants (dyes) and so many other wonderful things!

 

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