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-Eps  3 stars
Title: I Love Boobies. And Butts, too!
Posts: 771
Registered: 2007-5-30 21:33:21
It's up to the user to decide how they use the plugin, just like your lifetank XI. I do not play for other people.

 

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Paraduck  2 stars
Title: quantum mechanic
Posts: 484
Registered: 2001-2-27 18:19:03
It's quite obvious that the purpose of this plugin is to avoid admin detection. I only see three features not offered by LT -- show nearby players, relogging, and admin alarm. Two of those features are blatant UCM-oriented features.


Stop feeding the bull**** and admit it already.

 

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-Eps  3 stars
Title: I Love Boobies. And Butts, too!
Posts: 771
Registered: 2007-5-30 21:33:21
Paraduck posted:

It's quite obvious that the purpose of this plugin is to avoid admin detection. I only see three features not offered by LT -- show nearby players, relogging, and admin alarm. Two of those features are blatant UCM-oriented features.


Stop feeding the bull**** and admit it already.



You must have trouble counting, Alleg stealth, fellow stealth, auto resume, envoy alert, test envoy alert, relogger, show nearby players, stealth alert = 8 things that lifetank doesn't have.


Actually the admin detection is one of the least used feature in the plugin, Admins don't even log on DT much of EVER, I have not seen an envoy once in my months of playing DT.


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kinslayer271  1 star
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Drakier  4 stars
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Just because it "gets old" and people "get tired of it" doesn't make it any less true, or any less applicable.


The reason is it always brought up over and over again is that people don't seem to look beyond their noses and take a good look around to what they're doing. And the people that DO look around and know EXACTLY what their doing and do it anyway for the negative is even worse. I don't blame people as much for ignorance. Although I don't find ignorance to be a good excuse, it's reasonable to assume some people just don't know any better. For those who DO know better and do it anyway, shame on you.


It's the "me" generation of entitlement. I'm personally sick of it, and it's not healthy for society to raise people who are so selfish and self-centered. And if you don't think it's applicable, take a good look around. Or perhaps you need to move to LA and take a drive around. You'll see it on the streets in less than 10 minutes. It's very frustrating to have people constantly around you who do nothing but think about themselves, and think they're the only people in the world and no one else is as important as them. You know where that attitude came from? Entitlement. They feel they are "owed" something, or that somehow, they are more important than the person next to them. Rather than slow down to let someone cross over their lane to the further lane, they'd rather speed up because heaven forbid someone get in front of them for 3 seconds.


It's all over in the world around us, and quite frankly it "gets old" and i "get tired of it"... yet it continues on, and I do my part to combat the problem through self awareness, and awareness to one's surroundings. This extends far beyond the game. It's an attitude of people, and a philosophy of life that people live by. Perhaps you should take a good look around and decide that you're going to do something to help the world, rather than be a drain on it. I hate to use the old cliche, but don't think about what the world can do for you, but instead, what you can do for the world. If even a large fraction of peopel in the world did that, the world would be a much better place.
-Eps  3 stars
Title: I Love Boobies. And Butts, too!
Posts: 771
Registered: 2007-5-30 21:33:21
It certainly makes it more annoying and more POINTLESS. I DON'T CARE about what you think, you think any pro combat macroer gives a [Improperly masked profanity] about what anti combat macroers have to say? Call up Sweet Mary, I'm sure she'd listen to you all day. If not, atleast post on somebody's thread who cares, or atleast is remotely related to what you have to say.


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deltasBit
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I for one am certainly not anti-macro. I am also not anti-ACM. I freely admit that I have on ocassion used the ACM feature of both LTX and Warbot. I have done so despite the fact I am a dedicated Key Boarder and play that way 99% of the time. I play that way because I spent a lot of time developing my Key Board skills in AC and I enjoy playing that way.


My style of play is not for everyone and I really don't concern myself with how others play the game. However, it's obvious to me that tons of players use LTX, A+ and many other Macros to enhance their enjoyment of the game. I frankly admire the skill of the Decal and Plug-in developers. I use their work at times just to see how good they are. Recently I have found Minimap and Radar Add on both help even a Key Board Player.


My point is this. The next plug-in I need to enjoy AC will be the first, BUT that's just me. I would not like to see the Anti-macro crowd find another target to focus on. This proposed plug-in seems very likely to provide such a focus. That could well result in jeopordizing all plug-ins -- even those for the Buff Bots which are used extensively. That would hurt the enjoyment of AC for many people. When Drakier, Crelic and Paraduck voice their concerns, they are looking out for the interests of the large majority of people who use plug-ins to enjoy AC.


If this plug-in is approved it won't effect my play at all unless it hurts the people I fellow with who need the Buff Bots, ect. For that reason I am glad the Devs are looking at it closely.


Just my opinion.
Monolith_WE  1 star
Posts: 75
Registered: 2004-11-24 06:18:54
Nice job EPS, looks good from what I see so far. Looking forward to trying it out.
OREOSTARS  1 star
Posts: 99
Registered: 2005-3-3 15:23:01
Paraduck posted:

It's quite obvious that the purpose of this plugin is to avoid admin detection. I only see three features not offered by LT -- show nearby players, relogging, and admin alarm. Two of those features are blatant UCM-oriented features.



Uhm. This point makes me jump out... The little run macro button isn't a "Blatant UCM feature"? Hmmm. Log on death. Log on low tapers. Log on low scarabs. Log on low arrows. Hmmm. All of these have nothing to do with UCM? If lifetank was a non ucm plugin which are you're making it sound like you think it is then mabye just an alarm. Ding you are low on tapers.... You are defending your plugin with lame excuses sir.
Paraduck  2 stars
Title: quantum mechanic
Posts: 484
Registered: 2001-2-27 18:19:03
LT certainly isn't without some questionable features, but we don't provide the means to escape UCM tests by admin alarms.

 

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