But a yield should use the war-threshold verus the buff-threshold IIRC.

 

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Then if I need to war things (which I do for some baddies) it would be using level 1 war spells. It's a workaround I thought of, but won't work.

it's a work around that doesn't work ONLY if you not there.


let vtank do the imperil/vul at lvl 1 and turn off the Attack column and cast wars AS NEEDED manually.

 

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Then what is the point of running the macro? Even if you are at the keys you don't wanna mash buttons if you are using a combat macro.


Ag, please keep the acm/ucm rhetoric on the Turbine forums please. We are here to help people with problems, not berate their playstyle.

 

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keep your opionion to yourself b-c, I did not get into any ucm vrs live.


I ONLY presented a way he can quickly let vtank imperil/vul at a much lower level automatically AND still be able to fire off the as needed war spell at a higher level then auto vtank would perform after his temp modification.


as it is way different then the approach (as i understand it) that eltank/ltx uses in that you can set levels of war and levels of vuls.


but that's not quite possible in vtank without adjusting the threshold type variables. and as i stated up earlier the imperil/vul (by now i forgot which exactly he wanted) would fall under the life type threshold and not war (I think from the last time i set something like this up where vtank cast lvl 5 or 6 imperils only, even thought it was able to cast 8s from the toon. lower level speeds up the casting and in some casts was way more then enough for the melee, especially if both were applied).


under current vtank I know of now way he can accomplish what he wants , speed debuffing of monster and still get max buffs/war that doesn't impact his rebuffing cycle/level.

 

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Joe, try changing the setting under the advanced options/spellcombat/debuffselectionmethod - spell level


See if you get the desired results with this. Haven't played around with it, so no idea what it does. It may calculate your war magic skill - critter resist = level of debuff needed.


Edit: Thought about this a bit. With the way Virindi codes (very well), if my above assumption is correct, it may even use the combatspell offset to calculate this. So if you want to cast war 7's, set your offset to the absolute highest setting you can that will allow you to cast 7's and not 8's. This will decrease the difference in the calculated war and the creatures resist, lowering the yield level needed.

 

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I was thinking this as well, it is after all, an older system that has not been upgraded....


Losing plug ins is the reason I came here, I would like to un-install 6 virindi plug ins I never use and just get the stand alone vtank proggie. I think this might help the situation I am having as the other plug ins I run are far to important to my personal playstyle.


However, as I understand it (just what I have heard and read), the stand alone proggie isn't very usefull without the upgraded features that are available only in the multi bundle version of vtank.... is this correct?


Another question I had was, vfollower is the only program showing up in control panel as "installed", is this normal? How do I un-install the bundle?

 

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Yes, that is normal. The directions for removing vtank and it's bundled plugins is on the vtank wiki.


*******If you don't want the rest of the bundle, simply uncheck them in decal. They won't be loaded when you go in game and you get the updated version of vtank.********


You may want to keep the updater checked though, as Virindi puts out a lot of updates to make vtank better.

 

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Thanks for the suggestion. I tried this and had two different results, neither of which was desireable. If I set the threshold to where it just wants to cast 7's instead of 8's, it applies a level 7 magic yield. If I put a very large number in that field, it wants to cast magic yield 1, but gives this error:

9:52:48 [VTank] Error: no way to apply a required debuff similar to "Magic Yield Other I"
9:52:48 [VTank] Macro stopped.

Slowly increasing the threshold number only caused it to step down in war spell levels while applying the same level magic yield.

Doesn't look like it's possible to do what I'm asking for currently, which is why I think it'd be handy to be able to specify what level creature, life, war, and void spells to use separately via options.

Casting war spells manually isn't a great option because I'm on the other account fighting at the same time - hence why I use VTank at all. Trying to go back and forth to cast war spells while healing, dodging, and fighting isn't conducive to long-term survival as a 2H player.

The reason there is no longer a 'standalone' installer for VTank is that it is much easier for me to push out updates using the Bundle autoupdater than it is for people to repeatedly download a new installer, given the speed at which updates are often produced.

There is no problem with installing the Bundle and then unchecking things you don't want. The Bundle is designed to work properly with any combination of Bundle components disabled (of course you will miss out on features of those disabled components). For instance, if you uncheck "Virindi View Service Bootstrapper", the remaining Bundle plugins will appear in the Decal bar, but you won't be able to use the map feature of VI2.

As was mentioned, keeping the autoupdater is highly recommended.

If you wish to uninstall the entire Bundle, instructions are here: http://vnboards.ign.com/message.asp?topic=114109702

 

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