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levgre  3 stars
Posts: 606
Registered: 2001-10-24 07:24:49
TheUnholyGhost posted:

You have a choice whether you perform homosexual acts.
Which is why a large population of prison inmates engage is homosexual sex.
Or do you think people that go to prison are genetically predisposed to homosexual acts?



Illogical argument number one.

Group A makes choice B
Group A is obviously not genetically predisposed to choice B because... Okay you are fine up to here
Therefore it is also a choice for Person C And suddenly off the deep end into fallacious arguing and poor conclusions! So many skipped steps, so little support given.


That is how far I had to read to find your first display of ignorance. But more crammed right afterwards.


TheUnholyGhost posted:

Almost all abnormal human behavior can be attributed to chemical imbalances in the brain. okay, you follow the biological model for psychology very strictly, there are many varieties of abnormal behavior and chemical imbalances may not even account for half of them
Like most chemical imbalances, this could likely be treated with drugs. This is where you go off the deep end, chemical imbalance does not = abnormal human behavior, the majority of abnormal human behavior cannot be treated by drugs
We should be researching this, and helping those that don't want to be different. there certainly are scientists studying the brain chemistry of homosexuals and there has been no conclusion that it is a chemical imbalance.



How about you start over from the beginning and try to make a real argument?

 

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TheUnholyGhost  2 stars
Title: Mr. Subtle
Posts: 271
Registered: 2000-4-4 13:21:40
My argument is PURE logic, what are you talking about?


How can you say that I can't imagine myself as wrong, when I'm not claiming to be right??? I came to a logical conclusion based on anecdotal evidence I've already posted half a dozen times in this thread. I repeat myself to draw your attention to your misinterpretation of my posts, and in the next post I get accused of "saying the same thing over and over." lol


Am I right? I have no idea. That's why I'm calling for research into homosexuality as a treatable chemical imbalance in the brain.

Could I be wrong? Absolutely, there hasn't been near enough research on homosexuality to come to a "I'm right, you're wrong" conclusion.


It's my opinion. A vast majority of the time, my opinions turn out to be right. I'm betting this one will as well.


Bottom line, these are facts:

Ancient Greece practiced homosexual sex as a society. (Ancient Rome as well)

Prison inmates practice homosexual sex at a majorly increased rate.

No child comes out of the womb "desiring" any sex over the other.

Sex (The physical act) itself is a behavior. It's not a feeling. It's not an emotion. It's a behavior. Period.

Love, desire, attraction, arousal are all emotions directly related to pleasure centers in the brain.


Based on these facts, I've drawn logical conclusions that it's unlikely that a gay gene exists. I've concluded that if someone's pleasure center of their brain is not acting normally, there is a chemical or neurological problem that could potentially be treated with drugs.


Tell me, where in all of that, I'm insulting gays, making up definitions, or not applying logical reasoning.


I'm not defending my conclusions to any kind of peer review, I'm simply killing time at work, until my 2PM tee time. Could I provide more data to support my conclusions? Absolutely. Am I willing to spend 20 minutes citing medical and historical facts to two people who'd disagree with me no matter what I said? No.


Attack my ideas. Provide any kind of proof that indicates otherwise. At least I differentiate between my opinions and facts. You simply consider your opinions and assumptions as facts and hope that somehow that will "win you" an unwinable argument.


Lunch time.

 

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levgre  3 stars
Posts: 606
Registered: 2001-10-24 07:24:49
TheUnholyGhost posted:

Ancient Greece practiced homosexual sex as a society. (Ancient Rome as well)Irrelevant, choice made by some does not mean choice made for others
Prison inmates practice homosexual sex at a majorly increased rate. Irrelevant, above
No child comes out of the womb "desiring" any sex over the other. Irrelevant, genetics do not trigger solely at birth, sexuality does not manifest until later. You've done nothing to refute the documented cases of people always being homosexual
Sex (The physical act) itself is a behavior. It's not a feeling. It's not an emotion. It's a behavior. Period.Irrelevant. Yes the physical act of sex is 'behavior'. Irrelevant to this debate, which is on the motivation.
Love, desire, attraction, arousal are all emotions directly related to pleasure centers in the brain. Okay yes, these emotions emerge in the brain? In specific areas of the our segmented brains? You don't say..

Based on these facts, I've drawn logical conclusions that it's unlikely that a gay gene exists.A bunch of irrelevant facts and an 8th grade summary of how emotions work I've concluded that if someone's pleasure center of their brain is not acting normally, there is a chemical or neurological problem that could potentially be treated with drugs. Okay you've concluded that the biological model of psychology should continue to be taken into consideration

Tell me, where in all of that, I'm insulting gays, making up definitions, or not applying logical reasoning.Assuming that a trait is a chemical imbalance is generally accepted as insulting. You not so much make up definitions as incorrectly use and switch between them. I've pointed out the numerous occasions where you don't actually supply a logical argument but write a statement from which the conclusion does not follow

 

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AgzntOrange2  2 stars
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Registered: 2008-11-20 13:55:40
Gays need to resub to the human race and stop trying to be different.

 

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notmforce2k  4 stars
Posts: 1,209
Registered: 2011-10-9 09:37:34
Talk about not reading someone's post... LOL. You lobbed that charge out at us and now, after I specifically called you out for saying I disagree simply by default, you're continuing to say it.

And we have gone a third request denied for proof.

Now I know why you believe so strongly in this are archaic opinion... it's all you have. You refuse to acknowledge that a large portion of the medical and scientific communities disagree with you. You refuse to acknowledge any change or progress in science, so you cling to your one opinion.
GrimTempest  3 stars
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Registered: 2001-12-21 01:36:49
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Achim_LC  1 star
Title: Knuckle Dragging Thug
Posts: 192
Registered: 2002-1-20 00:31:45
In most cases I don't believe it is a choice but I don't believe you are born that way either.

 

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Hyperimiator  3 stars
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Registered: 2001-7-20 18:55:36

 

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AgzntOrange2  2 stars
Posts: 304
Registered: 2008-11-20 13:55:40
I remember in High School health classes they told us masturbation was a Homosexual act.
I don't consider myself Homosexual. Maybe an A-sexual Alien Tribble.

 

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notmforce2k  4 stars
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Registered: 2011-10-9 09:37:34
Hyperimiator posted:





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