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regulator_cracka  Title: They finally recognized greatness.
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Wow even in 2012, you can shoot a gay kid in cold blood and get off almost scot-free for it. |
Fozzie_Bear posted:
JD_HOGG posted:
regulator_cracka posted:
If it makes you feel better, you can shoot a black person in cold blood and get off almost scot-free for it today too.
I shutter to think what would happen to a gay black person. 
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NonOffensiveName  Title: Touching people in special places all day long
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Wow even in 2012, you can shoot a gay kid in cold blood and get off almost scot-free for it. |
ferdinand.the.great posted:
NON, you tried really hard to seem like you aren't being a douchebag this time, and I commend you for it, but you're acting as though the kid being gay means punishment should be especially harsh, or something. You want to put a teenager to death? That's disgusting. You think 21 years in prison is "almost scot-free"? Are you kidding me? That kid's life is over. At a time when he should be gaining vital life skills, he's not. By the time he's out of prison, he'll be completely useless in the job market, and will probably turn to crime just to get by, landing him back in prison. If you think this sentence would be any different if it were a straight victim, you're delusional.
shouldnt it be especially hard? I mean thats why he was accused of a HATE crime on top of first degree murder which is what he was guilty of. Even the law allows punishments to be extra harsh when the circumstances warrant it. The defense made no bones about why the kid was shot, it was because he was gay. That pretty plain and simple. They might as well have said he had twinkie rage and thats why he killed the gay kid.
This jury wasnt going to convict the straight kid no matter what. No I dont think the sentence would be different if it were a straight victim. The verdict would've been different though if the jury had convicted him on the charges that they should have instead of going on bias against the gay victim's inappropriate behavior. This behavior does not justify the use of deadly force unless the gay kid at the time was literally trying to force a sexual organ down the straight kid's throat or anus or something. Again Im not taking up for the gay kid's action, he was wrong 200% but it doesnt justify sacrificing his life for it. How fast do you think a jury would convict me if I went out to a bar and a women hit on me and I pulled out a gun and blew two holes in the back of her head for it and then tried to claim it was just "straight panic"?
If he wanted to be a productive member of society in the first place I doubt he would've carried a gun to school and shot a kid for being gay and making sexual advances at him.
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RavofMT  Posts: 355
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NonOffensiveName posted:
ferdinand.the.great posted:
NON, you tried really hard to seem like you aren't being a douchebag this time, and I commend you for it, but you're acting as though the kid being gay means punishment should be especially harsh, or something. You want to put a teenager to death? That's disgusting. You think 21 years in prison is "almost scot-free"? Are you kidding me? That kid's life is over. At a time when he should be gaining vital life skills, he's not. By the time he's out of prison, he'll be completely useless in the job market, and will probably turn to crime just to get by, landing him back in prison. If you think this sentence would be any different if it were a straight victim, you're delusional.
shouldnt it be especially hard? I mean thats why he was accused of a HATE crime on top of first degree murder which is what he was guilty of. Even the law allows punishments to be extra harsh when the circumstances warrant it. The defense made no bones about why the kid was shot, it was because he was gay. That pretty plain and simple. They might as well have said he had twinkie rage and thats why he killed the gay kid. This jury wasnt going to convict the straight kid no matter what. No I dont think the sentence would be different if it were a straight victim. The verdict would've been different though if the jury had convicted him on the charges that they should have instead of going on bias against the gay victim's inappropriate behavior. This behavior does not justify the use of deadly force unless the gay kid at the time was literally trying to force a sexual organ down the straight kid's throat or anus or something. Again Im not taking up for the gay kid's action, he was wrong 200% but it doesnt justify sacrificing his life for it. How fast do you think a jury would convict me if I went out to a bar and a women hit on me and I pulled out a gun and blew two holes in the back of her head for it and then tried to claim it was just "straight panic"? If he wanted to be a productive member of society in the first place I doubt he would've carried a gun to school and shot a kid for being gay and making sexual advances at him.
sexual organ? come on homophobe, you can say dick, or penis. it doesn't make you gay
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JD_HOGG Posts: 2,846
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NonOffensiveName posted:
ferdinand.the.great posted:
NON, you tried really hard to seem like you aren't being a douchebag this time, and I commend you for it, but you're acting as though the kid being gay means punishment should be especially harsh, or something. You want to put a teenager to death? That's disgusting. You think 21 years in prison is "almost scot-free"? Are you kidding me? That kid's life is over. At a time when he should be gaining vital life skills, he's not. By the time he's out of prison, he'll be completely useless in the job market, and will probably turn to crime just to get by, landing him back in prison. If you think this sentence would be any different if it were a straight victim, you're delusional.
shouldnt it be especially hard? I mean thats why he was accused of a HATE crime on top of first degree murder which is what he was guilty of. Even the law allows punishments to be extra harsh when the circumstances warrant it. The defense made no bones about why the kid was shot, it was because he was gay. That pretty plain and simple. They might as well have said he had twinkie rage and thats why he killed the gay kid.
This jury wasnt going to convict the straight kid no matter what. No I dont think the sentence would be different if it were a straight victim. The verdict would've been different though if the jury had convicted him on the charges that they should have instead of going on bias against the gay victim's inappropriate behavior. This behavior does not justify the use of deadly force unless the gay kid at the time was literally trying to force a sexual organ down the straight kid's throat or anus or something. Again Im not taking up for the gay kid's action, he was wrong 200% but it doesnt justify sacrificing his life for it. How fast do you think a jury would convict me if I went out to a bar and a women hit on me and I pulled out a gun and blew two holes in the back of her head for it and then tried to claim it was just "straight panic"?
If he wanted to be a productive member of society in the first place I doubt he would've carried a gun to school and shot a kid for being gay and making sexual advances at him.
He didn't shoot the kid because he was gay. He shot him because he was being harrassed. That's not a hate crime.
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Fozzie_Bear Posts: 2,490
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he wasnt sacrificed. he was shot dead like a sick dog.
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NonOffensiveName Title: Touching people in special places all day long
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Wow even in 2012, you can shoot a gay kid in cold blood and get off almost scot-free for it. |
RavofMT posted:
NonOffensiveName posted:
ferdinand.the.great posted:
NON, you tried really hard to seem like you aren't being a douchebag this time, and I commend you for it, but you're acting as though the kid being gay means punishment should be especially harsh, or something. You want to put a teenager to death? That's disgusting. You think 21 years in prison is "almost scot-free"? Are you kidding me? That kid's life is over. At a time when he should be gaining vital life skills, he's not. By the time he's out of prison, he'll be completely useless in the job market, and will probably turn to crime just to get by, landing him back in prison. If you think this sentence would be any different if it were a straight victim, you're delusional.
shouldnt it be especially hard? I mean thats why he was accused of a HATE crime on top of first degree murder which is what he was guilty of. Even the law allows punishments to be extra harsh when the circumstances warrant it. The defense made no bones about why the kid was shot, it was because he was gay. That pretty plain and simple. They might as well have said he had twinkie rage and thats why he killed the gay kid. This jury wasnt going to convict the straight kid no matter what. No I dont think the sentence would be different if it were a straight victim. The verdict would've been different though if the jury had convicted him on the charges that they should have instead of going on bias against the gay victim's inappropriate behavior. This behavior does not justify the use of deadly force unless the gay kid at the time was literally trying to force a sexual organ down the straight kid's throat or anus or something. Again Im not taking up for the gay kid's action, he was wrong 200% but it doesnt justify sacrificing his life for it. How fast do you think a jury would convict me if I went out to a bar and a women hit on me and I pulled out a gun and blew two holes in the back of her head for it and then tried to claim it was just "straight panic"? If he wanted to be a productive member of society in the first place I doubt he would've carried a gun to school and shot a kid for being gay and making sexual advances at him.
sexual organ? come on homophobe, you can say dick, or penis. it doesn't make you gay
how exactly can I be a homophobe when Im gay myself? lol
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NonOffensiveName Title: Touching people in special places all day long
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Wow even in 2012, you can shoot a gay kid in cold blood and get off almost scot-free for it. |
JD_HOGG posted:
NonOffensiveName posted:
ferdinand.the.great posted:
NON, you tried really hard to seem like you aren't being a douchebag this time, and I commend you for it, but you're acting as though the kid being gay means punishment should be especially harsh, or something. You want to put a teenager to death? That's disgusting. You think 21 years in prison is "almost scot-free"? Are you kidding me? That kid's life is over. At a time when he should be gaining vital life skills, he's not. By the time he's out of prison, he'll be completely useless in the job market, and will probably turn to crime just to get by, landing him back in prison. If you think this sentence would be any different if it were a straight victim, you're delusional.
shouldnt it be especially hard? I mean thats why he was accused of a HATE crime on top of first degree murder which is what he was guilty of. Even the law allows punishments to be extra harsh when the circumstances warrant it. The defense made no bones about why the kid was shot, it was because he was gay. That pretty plain and simple. They might as well have said he had twinkie rage and thats why he killed the gay kid. This jury wasnt going to convict the straight kid no matter what. No I dont think the sentence would be different if it were a straight victim. The verdict would've been different though if the jury had convicted him on the charges that they should have instead of going on bias against the gay victim's inappropriate behavior. This behavior does not justify the use of deadly force unless the gay kid at the time was literally trying to force a sexual organ down the straight kid's throat or anus or something. Again Im not taking up for the gay kid's action, he was wrong 200% but it doesnt justify sacrificing his life for it. How fast do you think a jury would convict me if I went out to a bar and a women hit on me and I pulled out a gun and blew two holes in the back of her head for it and then tried to claim it was just "straight panic"? If he wanted to be a productive member of society in the first place I doubt he would've carried a gun to school and shot a kid for being gay and making sexual advances at him.
He didn't shoot the kid because he was gay. He shot him because he was being harrassed. That's not a hate crime.
right...and if it was a girl throwing himself at the straight kid Im sure he would've shot her in the back of the head too right?  get real, you cant separate the two
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Fozzie_Bear Posts: 2,490
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harrassment can come in many flavors. the courts didnt rule the way you felt they should
dont vote for them next time
o wait... 
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vn_anon63xxx Title: Darwin's Revenge
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What you are missing is that the gay kid was basically bullying the straight kid. That may SOUND strange, but I could see that in an extreme case where the school fails to protect the straight kid from unwanted advances that this sort of unfortunate act is somewhat justifiable.
Imagine if if was a straight guy doing that to a girl and the school protects THE GUY instead of the girl being bullied? What if you had the boy's father and sister ENCOURAGING the straight guy to torment the girl? At some point the person being bullied is going protect themselves.
The funny part is that the GLBT community somehow managed to get CA to pass a law to protect gays from bullying. It was the GAY KID who was bullying the straight kid, not the other way around.
I've listened to interviews with both the father and the sister of the dead kid. WOW, are they out to lunch. They ENCOURAGED the gay kid to pull this crap on straight boys. Now, they act as if it was the gay kid who was bullied.
The parents of the gay kid and the school are the ones I blame in this. With the new law you basically give gay kids the right to bully straight kids and it will be the straight kids who get punished.
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Maleraka Title: Postponing the inevitable
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Wow even in 2012, you can shoot a gay kid in cold blood and get off almost scot-free for it. |
ferdinand.the.great posted:
NON, you tried really hard to seem like you aren't being a douchebag this time, and I commend you for it, but you're acting as though the kid being gay means punishment should be especially harsh, or something.
You want to put a teenager to death? That's disgusting. You think 21 years in prison is "almost scot-free"? Are you <effing> kidding me? That kid's life is over. At a time when he should be gaining vital life skills, he's not. By the time he's out of prison, he'll be completely useless in the job market, and will probably turn to crime just to get by, landing him back in prison.
If you think this sentence would be any different if it were a straight victim, you're delusional.
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