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EbonDragon  4 stars
Title: 8bit epileptic
Posts: 1,041
Registered: 2002-12-21 19:14:06
first article posted:

The implications of this figure are even more staggering when you think it through a bit more. Take for purposes of back-of-the-envelope speculation that EA is willing to give The Old Republic a year to earn back their investment (a very aggressive figure, by the way). And let's just assume that out of your stereotypical $15-a-month subscription fee (which Bioware has hinted is not the only possible revenue source for the game), much of that is taken up due to operational expenses - bandwidth, facilities costs, keeping a live team on the payroll. It's safe to say that Bioware will need probably close to a 25-person live team (an expansion presumably having its own budget). Assume $250,000 a month in payroll and facilities costs (and I am probably vastly underestimating here). Figure $2 per person per month in bandwidth, facilities, and server support (a very rough estimate based on prior performance, and assuming the MMO provider is hosting their own servers and buying bandwidth in bulk). Everything else - ignoring for the sake of discussion marketing, community, any other cost - is operating profit, which by EA's own estimation has to go back to fund that initial investment so that they can break even.
Dark_EternalFF  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-11-8 22:44:06
Pros-

Really strong single-player storylines, Bioware-style storytelling. At least Empire-side; I've heard the Republic, and the Jedi in particular, are kind of letdowns. I'm almost done with my Inquisitor storyline and it's been a blast. I've heard the Agent storyline is good as well, so I'll roll one of those up too. The Warrior, so far, hasn't been as interesting as the Inquisitor storyline, but they get way more darkside choice opportunities.

The mod system is really strong; I've been wearing the same set of armor for 30 levels simply because I haven't found anything that I like the look of better, and I'm not gimped for making that choice. The mod system allows me to keep up.

For the most part, the worlds and their individual storylines are interesting. Tatooine, Hoth, and Corellia have probably been my least favorite.

There is a variety of quest and group content to do the entire time you're levelling. I never had to sit and grind mobs to advance; I'm 50 and I still haven't finished Corellia, or my class quest. I did only one Flashpoint (instance) while levelling with an actual group at the level it was intended for; the rest I just let sit in my quest log and soloed them later. It's nice that I'm not forced into doing that to advance.

The 'I've wandered into an area and am assigned a kill quest' or Bonus Quests are great, because they're largely optional, they're automatically assigned, and more often than not you end up completing them just trying to achieve your primary quest objective (which is usually a lot more interesting than 'collect 6 boar meats'.

I haven't encountered any game-breaking bugs. Most of the time my companions just despawn when I feel they shouldn't (like after taking a taxi) but that just means I get to summon them and slap them in the face with my racial. Punishment for your sins, worm!

Cons-

Space combat, while pretty-looking, is rather dull. It's not poorly done in the sense that it's buggy, it's just kind of a jarring transition from normal play to...HD Starfox.

If you're like me and you wait until the level cap to start your professions, you'll find it tedious. It's also pretty expensive. It's not a bad system, but I wish it didn't consume so much time.

Some of your companions are basically useless beyond their individual storylines. I switch between two (DPS and Tank) and that's about all I need. It's also a pain to gear them, because they'll suck horribly unless you find socketed items and waste planet commendations on buying mods for their gear. This is in addition to trying to buy your own commendations.

I can't speak for level-cap content yet, so I'll hold my thoughts on that for now.

 

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-VanDraegon-  1 star
Title: Ratt-n-Roll
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Registered: 2000-6-26 19:59:09
I like it, but am kind of burnt out on mmogs at the moment. I have played my jedi sentinel of to 16. Havent logged in in a couple weeks. I turn off all the chat and only play solo. Been replaying ME2 and all the dlc for it in prep of ME3 in March. Plus Skyrim still on my desk as well. Too many things going on give it much time, good game though.

 

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HeartView  4 stars
Title: Be right back...
Posts: 1,209
Registered: 2001-12-20 08:11:56
Thank you all for the input. I'm still having lots of fun with Skyrim but I'll probably pick up SWTOR when I'm finally bored with Skyrim (2048 or so at the rate I'm going).

 

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regulator_cracka  4 stars
Title: They finally recognized greatness.
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Registered: 2009-1-6 15:07:53
Dark_EternalFF posted:

Pros-

Really strong single-player storylines, Bioware-style storytelling. At least Empire-side; I've heard the Republic, and the Jedi in particular, are kind of letdowns. I'm almost done with my Inquisitor storyline and it's been a blast. I've heard the Agent storyline is good as well, so I'll roll one of those up too. The Warrior, so far, hasn't been as interesting as the Inquisitor storyline, but they get way more darkside choice opportunities.

The mod system is really strong; I've been wearing the same set of armor for 30 levels simply because I haven't found anything that I like the look of better, and I'm not gimped for making that choice. The mod system allows me to keep up.

For the most part, the worlds and their individual storylines are interesting. Tatooine, Hoth, and Corellia have probably been my least favorite.

There is a variety of quest and group content to do the entire time you're levelling. I never had to sit and grind mobs to advance; I'm 50 and I still haven't finished Corellia, or my class quest. I did only one Flashpoint (instance) while levelling with an actual group at the level it was intended for; the rest I just let sit in my quest log and soloed them later. It's nice that I'm not forced into doing that to advance.

The 'I've wandered into an area and am assigned a kill quest' or Bonus Quests are great, because they're largely optional, they're automatically assigned, and more often than not you end up completing them just trying to achieve your primary quest objective (which is usually a lot more interesting than 'collect 6 boar meats'.

I haven't encountered any game-breaking bugs. Most of the time my companions just despawn when I feel they shouldn't (like after taking a taxi) but that just means I get to summon them and slap them in the face with my racial. Punishment for your sins, worm!

Cons-

Space combat, while pretty-looking, is rather dull. It's not poorly done in the sense that it's buggy, it's just kind of a jarring transition from normal play to...HD Starfox.

If you're like me and you wait until the level cap to start your professions, you'll find it tedious. It's also pretty expensive. It's not a bad system, but I wish it didn't consume so much time.

Some of your companions are basically useless beyond their individual storylines. I switch between two (DPS and Tank) and that's about all I need. It's also a pain to gear them, because they'll suck horribly unless you find socketed items and waste planet commendations on buying mods for their gear. This is in addition to trying to buy your own commendations.

I can't speak for level-cap content yet, so I'll hold my thoughts on that for now.



This was actually a very simple but effective write up. Good stuff!

 

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Dark_EternalFF  4 stars
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Oh yeah I forgot to mention - my biggest gripe about the whole game is lack of UI customizability. Hell, just a UI scale option would be nice.

 

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FineYoungCannibals  4 stars
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Posts: 1,620
Registered: 2003-7-14 19:17:12
Dark_EternalFF posted:

Oh yeah I forgot to mention - my biggest gripe about the whole game is lack of UI customizability. Hell, just a UI scale option would be nice.



i heard it's coming in a patch real soon

 

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Sith_Mauler  4 stars
Posts: 1,851
Registered: 2002-12-21 13:40:03
Myn_Darklighter posted:

Chogram posted:

Gilligan.USCG posted:

Chogram posted:

I played through the 10 level tutorial area.

Does the entire game limit you to not being able to group with friends of the same class?



You obviously didn't play the game..



Whenever you go into a "Green wall" area it says "No more than one player of this type of class can enter."

It happens 3-4 times through the first 10 levels.



The ONLY quests that are such that grouping with another person of the same class becomes an issue is the class quest story line.
ALL other content you can group with others of the same class just fine.

And even the class quest story line can be grouped with another person of the same class.
You first have to change a setting to allow same class to enter class quests area.

The first person to enter the area is the quest owner, and will be the only one of the class to complete it.
The other person of the same class upon attempting to enter will get a two choice window...to join the same instance as you, or to enter a new instance. If they choose to enter your instance, they can participate in helping you to complete the fights, but will only be a spectator in the conversations.

You need to leave the instance and allow the other person to enter, and do the quest again to complete the class quest for them.





also grouping with someone who has the same chain quest but at you are at different steps causes issues with "instanced" or "spawned" encounters.

 

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Former_Camilla  1 star
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Posts: 189
Registered: 2001-3-11 13:54:39
$375M!




Edit: And I'm thoroughly enjoying the game.
Ibbeh  2 stars
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Registered: 2003-5-7 18:59:05
Oh Barry. That guy makes it worth watching. One cool fella

 

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