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myxomatosis8  3 stars
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Registered: 2001-7-14 23:45:21
I'm not trying to punish anyone, I'm trying to say that if anti-abortionists shove their beliefs in my face, then they better back it up with a viable alternative. No, not having sex is not a viable alternative. You've seen what celibacy leads to (see: Catholic church.)

Birth control is great, but yes, it does fail. Yes, there is user error, like with everything else. User error in a car kills people, can't ban driving either.

So yeah, it just irritates the crap out of me when someone calls a non-viable (aka could not live outside of the womb) embryo or fetus a baby that's being murdered. It's not the same thing.

 

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Varece  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-1-7 21:48:11
myxomatosis8 posted:

I'm not trying to punish anyone, I'm trying to say that if anti-abortionists shove their beliefs in my face, then they better back it up with a viable alternative. No, not having sex is not a viable alternative. You've seen what celibacy leads to (see: Catholic church.)

Birth control is great, but yes, it does fail. Yes, there is user error, like with everything else. User error in a car kills people, can't ban driving either.

So yeah, it just irritates the crap out of me when someone calls a non-viable (aka could not live outside of the womb) embryo or fetus a baby that's being murdered. It's not the same thing.



That is too logical for righteous ACF

 

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not as far as i know

 

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purplehugmonkey  2 stars
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Registered: 2005-5-16 18:42:03
Onslaught. posted:

Of course, I know one girl that threw a party the day after she miscarried in order to celebrate not having her life ruined. That was a bit weird.



Wow, that is a bit disturbing.

 

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Lokkie_the_Fierce  3 stars
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Yes

 

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NonOffensiveName  3 stars
Title: Touching people in special places all day long
Posts: 830
Registered: 2001-10-7 19:39:14
myxomatosis8 posted:

I'm not trying to punish anyone, I'm trying to say that if anti-abortionists shove their beliefs in my face, then they better back it up with a viable alternative. No, not having sex is not a viable alternative. You've seen what celibacy leads to (see: Catholic church.) Birth control is great, but yes, it does fail. Yes, there is user error, like with everything else. User error in a car kills people, can't ban driving either. So yeah, it just irritates the crap out of me when someone calls a non-viable (aka could not live outside of the womb) embryo or fetus a baby that's being murdered. It's not the same thing.

A viable alternative? Oh goodness I dont know, maybe people should try some personal responsibility for a change before resorting to killing their unborn child. We need to be teaching our future generations that just because you get yourself in a terrible mess doesnt mean that there are no consequences for your actions. Yeah you wanna have sex at 16 or 17 years old before you're mature enough to even have sex emotionally? Well if youre mature enough to make that decision then you're mature enough to handle the consequences. Thats why the youth today feel like nothing is ever their fault. No one is teaching them basic personal responsibility. There is a quick fix for every bad situation. I think if we send that message via our actions instead of saying "dont have sex dont have sex dont have sex" that would get the message across alot more effectively.

 

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Jezza_Belle  4 stars
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NonOffensiveName posted:

myxomatosis8 posted:

I'm not trying to punish anyone, I'm trying to say that if anti-abortionists shove their beliefs in my face, then they better back it up with a viable alternative. No, not having sex is not a viable alternative. You've seen what celibacy leads to (see: Catholic church.) Birth control is great, but yes, it does fail. Yes, there is user error, like with everything else. User error in a car kills people, can't ban driving either. So yeah, it just irritates the crap out of me when someone calls a non-viable (aka could not live outside of the womb) embryo or fetus a baby that's being murdered. It's not the same thing.

A viable alternative? Oh goodness I dont know, maybe people should try some personal responsibility for a change before resorting to killing their unborn child. We need to be teaching our future generations that just because you get yourself in a terrible mess doesnt mean that there are no consequences for your actions. Yeah you wanna have sex at 16 or 17 years old before you're mature enough to even have sex emotionally? Well if youre mature enough to make that decision then you're mature enough to handle the consequences. Thats why the youth today feel like nothing is ever their fault. No one is teaching them basic personal responsibility. There is a quick fix for every bad situation. I think if we send that message via our actions instead of saying "dont have sex dont have sex dont have sex" that would get the message across alot more effectively.



do you realize, as a gay man that will never procreate "by accident", you just sound like an asshole?

 

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murron2  3 stars
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Registered: 2002-1-6 08:40:46
NonOffensiveName posted:

myxomatosis8 posted:

I'm not trying to punish anyone, I'm trying to say that if anti-abortionists shove their beliefs in my face, then they better back it up with a viable alternative. No, not having sex is not a viable alternative. You've seen what celibacy leads to (see: Catholic church.) Birth control is great, but yes, it does fail. Yes, there is user error, like with everything else. User error in a car kills people, can't ban driving either. So yeah, it just irritates the crap out of me when someone calls a non-viable (aka could not live outside of the womb) embryo or fetus a baby that's being murdered. It's not the same thing.

A viable alternative? Oh goodness I dont know, maybe people should try some personal responsibility for a change before resorting to killing their unborn child. We need to be teaching our future generations that just because you get yourself in a terrible mess doesnt mean that there are no consequences for your actions. Yeah you wanna have sex at 16 or 17 years old before you're mature enough to even have sex emotionally? Well if youre mature enough to make that decision then you're mature enough to handle the consequences. Thats why the youth today feel like nothing is ever their fault. No one is teaching them basic personal responsibility. There is a quick fix for every bad situation. I think if we send that message via our actions instead of saying "dont have sex dont have sex dont have sex" that would get the message across alot more effectively.



There is so much wrongheaded and misplaced holier-than-thou attitude here that I won't bother...Truly!


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Lynea  4 stars
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Registered: 2001-7-26 13:09:39
Hasn't the law (in most states) decided that children under 18 aren't even capable of consentual sex? If so, how do you expect them to handle the consequences of something they aren't even capable of consenting to?

I'm gonna just agree with Jezza.

 

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levgre  3 stars
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Registered: 2001-10-24 07:24:49
Having an abortion is taking responsibility for your pregnancy. You are dealing with it yourself, and not placing a burden on someone else.

 

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