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regulator_cracka Title: They finally recognized greatness. Posts: 3,726 Registered: 2009-1-6 15:07:53	Date Posted: 1/1/00 12:00am Subject: So it looks like Manning is probably out in Indy, where does he rate all time if he retires now?
	You do realize if the Giants win the Superbowl that then Eli easily surpasses Rodgers on that list, right? 2 rings > 1. Not to mention Eli did it from Wildcard to Superbowl, twice. Very tough to do. -----signature----- Self Appointed Smart Ass - Level 80 If you think my opinion is idiotic, re-read yours. Dont worry I will give my opinion anyways. The PvP MMO is NOT a "niche" market, Mythic is just a "niche" company.
a_bloke Posts: 136 Registered:	Date Posted: 1/1/00 12:01am Subject: So it looks like Manning is probably out in Indy, where does he rate all time if he retires now?
	regulator_cracka posted: 2 rings > 1. Not to mention Eli did it from Wildcard to Superbowl, twice. Very tough to do. Giants were the 4 seed this year.
JD_HOGG Posts: 2,846 Registered: 2008-3-18 08:04:21	Date Posted: 1/1/00 12:01am Subject: So it looks like Manning is probably out in Indy, where does he rate all time if he retires now?
	regulator_cracka posted: You do realize if the Giants win the Superbowl that then Eli easily surpasses Rodgers on that list, right? 2 rings > 1. Not to mention Eli did it from Wildcard to Superbowl, twice. Very tough to do. He already surpassed Rodgers...one ring plus one extra Superbowl appearance.
Immortal_Haze Posts: 498 Registered: 2002-1-31 17:54:09	Date Posted: 1/1/00 12:01am Subject: So it looks like Manning is probably out in Indy, where does he rate all time if he retires now?
	Brady's the best QB in history. Manning's probably 4th or so. -----signature----- "Those who have long enjoyed such privileges as we enjoy forget in time that men have died to win them." FDR
a_bloke Posts: 136 Registered:	Date Posted: 1/1/00 12:01am Subject: So it looks like Manning is probably out in Indy, where does he rate all time if he retires now?
	Immortal_Haze posted: Brady's the best QB in history. Manning's probably 4th or so. A couple of negatives on Brady would make me hesitate before putting him at number 1. Aside from 07, never throws the ball down field. Avg completion at the spot of the catch is 4 yards. He plays poorly when there is a pass rush. Part of the great YAC yards is a testament to his great accuracy. But the passrush factor is huge. I think if Brady gets drafted by say... Chicago then there is no Tom Brady.
Unarmed-Yarr Title: Pirate of Harrrvestgain Posts: 390 Registered: 2000-2-23 15:43:24	Date Posted: 1/1/00 12:01am Subject: So it looks like Manning is probably out in Indy, where does he rate all time if he retires now?
	a_bloke posted: Immortal_Haze posted: Brady's the best QB in history. Manning's probably 4th or so. A couple of negatives on Brady would make me hesitate before putting him at number 1. Aside from 07, never throws the ball down field. Avg completion at the spot of the catch is 4 yards. He plays poorly when there is a pass rush. Part of the great YAC yards is a testament to his great accuracy. But the passrush factor is huge. I think if Brady gets drafted by say... Chicago then there is no Tom Brady. he doesnt throw down the field because he doesnt have people that can run fast enough. He works with what he has. Most QB's cant do that. -----signature----- Old Fogie (4,297 days old), East Sider, Pirate Unarmed Yarr, Dissilspilg, HOH 4 life (12-15-00) Passersby were amazed by the unusually large amounts of blood.
a_bloke Posts: 136 Registered:	Date Posted: 1/1/00 12:01am Subject: So it looks like Manning is probably out in Indy, where does he rate all time if he retires now?
	Unarmed-Yarr posted: he doesnt throw down the field because he doesnt have people that can run fast enough. He works with what he has. Most QB's cant do that. Or they put a product on the field that fits his style of play. Short, dink and dunk passes has been his MO his entire career. 2007 was the exception but he had Randy Moss, and Randy Moss made Dante Culpepper look like a god.
-Abysmal- Posts: 1,328 Registered: 2000-12-20 06:45:24	Date Posted: 1/1/00 12:01am Subject: So it looks like Manning is probably out in Indy, where does he rate all time if he retires now?
	a_bloke posted: Immortal_Haze posted: Brady's the best QB in history. Manning's probably 4th or so. A couple of negatives on Brady would make me hesitate before putting him at number 1. Aside from 07, never throws the ball down field. Avg completion at the spot of the catch is 4 yards. He plays poorly when there is a pass rush. Part of the great YAC yards is a testament to his great accuracy. But the passrush factor is huge. I think if Brady gets drafted by say... Chicago then there is no Tom Brady. you state some ok points, but hardly anything to limit him from any list...then you finish it off with something more moronic than the OP's list. now to satisfy Cuttlery... 1) Aaron Rodgers - WAY too early to make this ranking 2) Bart Starr - way too many turnovers...must be a green bay thing 3) Don Majikowski - 66 TD's 67 INT's...enough said...again, green bay thing 4) John Elway - could be mentioned, though too high 5) Tom Brady - too low, body of work speaks for itself. 6) Steve Young - sat too long but bottom half of top 10 is OK 7) Joe Montana - for sure top 5. 8) Lynn Dickie - green bay thing, turn over machine 9) Roger Staubach - better than any GB above 10) Brett Favre - Turnover king does not belong in top 10...NO ONE will even come close to those records...EVER...then throw in he loses when it matters most except for one year...and again, green bay thing. seriously though, what's with GB's history of turning the ball over??? i knew Favre was horrible with that aspect but it seems to be a team thing! WTF are they doing with Rodgers, he doesn't fit their mold! -----signature----- Now i LIVESTRONG GO PATRIOTS Yankees SUCK! I wish AC looked better, I miss it I love you forever Jamie
regulator_cracka Title: They finally recognized greatness. Posts: 3,726 Registered: 2009-1-6 15:07:53	Date Posted: 1/1/00 12:01am Subject: So it looks like Manning is probably out in Indy, where does he rate all time if he retires now?
	JD_HOGG posted: regulator_cracka posted: You do realize if the Giants win the Superbowl that then Eli easily surpasses Rodgers on that list, right? 2 rings > 1. Not to mention Eli did it from Wildcard to Superbowl, twice. Very tough to do. He already surpassed Rodgers...one ring plus one extra Superbowl appearance. True, but this win would cement it! -----signature----- Self Appointed Smart Ass - Level 80 If you think my opinion is idiotic, re-read yours. Dont worry I will give my opinion anyways. The PvP MMO is NOT a "niche" market, Mythic is just a "niche" company.
Surge_MT Posts: 213 Registered: 2001-5-9 11:10:00	Date Posted: 1/1/00 12:01am Subject: So it looks like Manning is probably out in Indy, where does he rate all time if he retires now?
	regulator_cracka posted: JD_HOGG posted: regulator_cracka posted: You do realize if the Giants win the Superbowl that then Eli easily surpasses Rodgers on that list, right? 2 rings > 1. Not to mention Eli did it from Wildcard to Superbowl, twice. Very tough to do. He already surpassed Rodgers...one ring plus one extra Superbowl appearance. True, but this win would cement it! By this logic, Big Ben is in front of both of them. 3 trips, 2 wins (1 win actually was from wildcard - 2005). -----signature----- The scripts/links below don't work anymore...I should really change my signature: Skill Calculator: http://www.strikefast.net/skillcalc/ Salvage Calculator: http://www.strikefast.net/tinkering/salvaging/ *** 09-11-01
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